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Jeegro

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CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« on: April 27, 2007, 07:59:13 PM »

Hey all,

I have opted to go for the CEH via self study because I am 16 and, unfortunately don't have 5 grand to spend. I am going through Career Academy's training videos at the moment, first 2 disks have been a review for me.

However I noticed the requirement on EC Council which says you need 2 years experience in the IT security field. Obviously I don't have that need fulfilled through a job, so I am trying to find any alternative which will allow me to get certified through self-study. I know lying would be a bad thing, but I DO have well over 2 years experience working with networks, maintaining security, deploying hardware and software packages, etc.

Any help would be great,

Jeff


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Re: CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 10:27:15 AM »

Hi Jeegro (Jeff), welcome aboard.
I don't think here is a way to get around the prerequisite, as even if you do a course you will still have to prove that you have the 2 years experience, as you can see from point no. 5 from the CEH FAQ.

If you indeed have all that experience you mentioned then there must be somebody who can verify that for you in writing.


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Re: CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 11:21:09 AM »

Negrita is right. When you choose the self-study method, you need to fill out an application and send it to EC-Council for verification. Once verified, they will give you a registration code to take the CEH exam. You can not register for the exam without this code.

You may want to check with EC-Council on which training centers can provide you online or CBT (as you mentioned you're using) and have it be accredited. For example, I know that QuickCert is authorized by EC-Council to provide the registration code. If you purchase their CEH course (video training, apx. $1,000; last I checked) then you will also receive the registration code to take the exam as it counts as taking the course.

Best of luck.


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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 12:05:18 PM »

Thanks for the input. I like the option of purchasing the $1000 training-ware, however I can't seem to find anywhere that they include a registration code.


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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 02:44:27 AM »

Hey Jeegro do you need any friends? I could stand to hang out with someone who likes the option to pay 1000 bucks for some videos. Granted the class is like 2500.


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Re: CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 08:25:40 AM »

Quote from: Jeegro on April 28, 2007, 12:05:18 PM

Thanks for the input. I like the option of purchasing the $1000 training-ware, however I can't seem to find anywhere that they include a registration code.

You can't find anywhere on their site? Or you can't find any other training places that say they offer a code?

I know for a fact that QuickCert/Specialized Solutions will provide the registration code. When I contacted EC-Council about an online provider, they were the only ones that EC-Council referred me to. Also, when talking to a sales rep at QuickCert, he stated that they include the code. No need to worry. It looks like the training cost has gone up a little, $1,295 now, but you get practice tests and e-books now (and the official courseware).

Have a look here for information.

ps. if you call in, remember you're talking to a salesperson... if you bust out some negotiation skills, you can probably get some other online courses included with your CEH for the same price Wink


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Jeegro

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 11:46:58 AM »

Hey venom, thanks, it makes sense now. I thought I would try my chances first, so I emailed EC-Council about getting a special exception case as outlined in their FAQ. He said to mail in my application and he would look it over. This way I will only need to buy the $440 courseware and I think thats plenty for me. A lot of the stuff is review, I just need to focus more on the technical details.


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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 08:39:33 AM »

Like many people here, I'm in a similar situation although I do have commercial experience. I have worked with Solaris, Linux, Windows, Networks etc for over 10 years as a Systems Administrator, and security comprises part of my daily list of activities. Although I don't know if EC Council will accept this or not.

QuickCert CBT (self study) is an interesting alternative to authorised classroom training especially as I am not prepared to wait 2 years to take the exam.

I'm not rich, but I do want to make a smart career move. But more than that, I actually enjoy studying, because sometimes you do learn something new and sometimes it's gratifying to gain a certificate for knowledge that you have, but can't easily prove. The CEH v5 looks like a great project to work towards.

My last thought is that the CEH is only valid for 2 years, so you'll need to re-certify. I have no idea that once CEH certified, and you need to re-certify if the same obstacle is in the way or not.


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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 12:22:36 PM »

You do not necessarily have to re-test to re-certify. You can also qualify by gaining education credits (details haven't been released from ECC yet).

In your situation, I would recommend doing the same as Jeegro and filling out the application and sending it to ECC.


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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 02:11:46 PM »

i think the 10 years in network/sys admin will more than meet the 2 year requirement.


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Re: CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 03:13:13 PM »

Why don't you get your boss to write a letter for you to send to EC-Council like this;

To whom it may concern,
This is to certify that dazdaz has worked at our company with Solaris, Linux, Windows, Networks etc for over 10 years as a Systems Administrator, and security comprises part of his daily list of activities.
Yours sincerely,
dazdaz's boss.

I got my boss to write something like that for me when I applied to EC-Council. I also asked him to include a line like this; "Negrita will continue to be employed by us in security related positions in the future".

Hope this helps.


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Re: CEH Self Study 2 year IT Requirement.

« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2007, 03:45:07 AM »

I also got my Boss to do the letter thing and had no problems


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