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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2007, 12:15:12 PM »

Ok, from the post I quoted it sounded like you were saying that having things going on at the same time wasn't an option and that's why 7-days was a choice.

I see what you're saying. My vote still stays for 5 days Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2007, 09:41:59 AM »

*Bump*

Didn't see this topic in the 'recent topics' list and wanted to make sure it didn't die out.

Don, how's this looking? Any updates/advancements?
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2007, 12:57:55 AM »

OK... here's how the planning is going...

Looks like a 5 day event in mid Sept or late Oct 2007. I'm partial to the week of Sept 17th (PM me if you know of other events at that time). I know, I know... very fast to put together such a vast event. But for those of you who know me, this is nothing new. I'm prone to take risks. So to put your mind at ease, here's what we have already:

We have a venue that includes a 180 seat auditorium and plenty of individual classrooms with computers, projectors and white boards. We also have a highly regarded partner to provide most of the 6 - 8 boot camp style courses for the most widely known security certs in the industry. We'll start each day with a cont. breakfast and 30 minute keynote by one of our columnists, then class, then lunch, then back to class, then evening presentations (we'll have an open call for papers) in rapid fire style at 30 minutes each for 2 hours. First hour (2 presentations) will be Soft Core topics. Second hour (2 more) will feature Hard Core topics. We will also host root wars on 2 nights (hopefully by our friends at LSO with Chris Gates) and other misc fun activities during the week. On Fri afternoon, exams for your chosen boot camp, and then we wrap it all up with a party Fri evening to celebrate your successes.

In Chicago, we're known for our blue collar, hard working attitude. So, we'll work hard and play hard for an amazing week of learning, career advancement and networking with peers... all in the city of broad shoulders.

How about this for boot camp offerings at ChicagoCon (In no particular order):

CISSP - For those looking to get into Management
CISA - For Auditors
CEH - For pen testers
CHFI - For forensics
Security+ - For newbies
Linux+ and/or LPIC-1

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2 SANS Courses - Thinking GCIH and GCFA
ECSA/LPT
CWNA - Wireless
CEPT - Expert Pen Testing
CCE - Forensics
CPTS - Pen Testing
CPTE - Pen Testing Expert

Should we try to include any Cisco courses? Any others you may want us to consider?

The CISSP class will have an option for a 7 day course, although the main conference and training will be only 5 days. We will also proctor a CISSP exam on the Sunday immediately after the training. Not many training events can boast that. Not bad, huh?

We can only fit 180 in the auditorium, and students get first shot. Depending on registrations, we may not be able to offer seats to the general public. We'll see how this pans out.

Thanks in advance for your feedback,
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2007, 09:31:13 AM »

I have several suggestions.

Although I am not sure if he will do it again but Ed Skoudis taught a two day version of the GCIH course at RSA.  This might be an alternative if you cannot book a full GCIH.  But I am here to tell you, the full course has a lot more detail and content.  I think the two day is good for management types or people with very little time for training.

You should look at some Immunity training for writing exploits.  They have their full course: http://www.immunitysec.com/education-unethicalhacking.shtml and their cut down course http://www.immunitysec.com/education-windowsoverflow.shtml
I have not taken these but I am sure that anything from these guys will be worth it.  Plus, an exposure to CANVAS would be great for all.

Some of the Metasploit developers also teach courses on writing exploits.  They were also at the RSA tutorials but I am not sure how their courses went over.

You may want to look at the other GIAC auditing courses as well.  These really provide detail for report writing and communicating with management.

I hope that helps,
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2007, 11:04:18 AM »

Thanks. All feedback helps.

In fact, Chris Gates recommended that I talk to Immunity about the exact course you suggested. I haven't been able to contact them directly yet, and I didn't want them looking at the list saying, "What the..."

So there's actually more I have in mind, but I've actually talked to everyone that is listed above.

Either way... keep the suggestions coming!

Don

PS - I'm going to PM you about an idea I have for you.
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 09:27:47 AM »

Sounds pretty good. I think it'd be nice to see the SANS courses added and possibly the CCE course. What Cisco courses did you have in mind if you were to offer them? CCNA and CCSP?

I think going with the 5-day option will work well. September sounds good and a Friday night party sounds even better! Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2007, 12:26:56 PM »

Sorry, I'm late to the party...this is a great idea, and will really help us to position ourselves as one of THE sources for the infosec community. 

Nice work, Don!
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2007, 11:00:45 PM »

Hey Venom77,

Since it is only 5 days, I'd have to limit it to CCNA. Unless of course you're already a CCNA and then have a class for CCSP. Networking hardware is by nature important to the security infrastructure of an organization. I'm just not sure if we should expand the scope of the event. Of course it is easier to fill seats in a Cisco and MS course. I have to remember to put on my business hat every now and then.  Tongue

I'd almost rather offer some more hardcore classes like BackTrack to the Max or a Foundstone course rather than lose the security focus of the event.

RichM,

Never too late. Thanks for the compliment. Look for the official announcement this month.

To all,

Would Sept or October be preferable? This is just on the cusp of winter here in Chicago, so that's why I'm leaning towards Sept. But since this is our first event, the extra month for planning would come in handy. You don't won't a bad first impression especially if we want this to be a regular event.

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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2007, 10:07:29 PM »

Where would this take place in Chicago and is it going to be expensive?
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2007, 03:00:07 PM »

How's this looking, Don? Anything I can do to help out just let me know.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2007, 02:54:47 PM »

So far it's looking great. ChicagoCon is on!

Final details are being squared away, but most of the major components are already in place. Here's where we stand:

It's looking more and more like the week of Sept 17 (about 95% sure). We have the venue with the 180-seat auditorium and 10 classrooms for a total offering of 11 courses. The Training Camp is on board, and we are still negotiating with the likes of SANS, the InfoSec Institute and Offensive Security.

ChicagoCon will be a 7-day event. Most of the activites will be during the first 5 days. In fact, all of the presentations and contests will be completed within 5 days. The closing remarks and party will be on Fri late afternoon - early evening. We are only bleeding into the weekend to accomodate the 7-Day CISSP course, 6-Day CHFI, 6-Day GCIH, etc.

As for pricing, we are looking to have our partners offer the same exact training as they would for any other class. We are also looking at NOT charging a premium for all of the extra events like the keynotes, presentations, hacking contests, etc. So you will actually get much more for your money if you choose to attend ChicagoCon.

We want this to be a first-class event through and through, so we are putting together all-inclusive packages that will include a ride from the airport, hotel, breakfast-lunch-maybe dinner, course materials (books) and the exam voucher. Of course t-shirts and giveaways will also be part of the fun. It wouldn't be an EH-Net event without free stuff, now would it? Grin

So for example, the Training Camp currently offers the all-inclusive deal for CEH for approx. $3800. Although we could be justified in asking for more, we are looking to go the other way and actually cut $100 of the price. For other courses from SANS and the InfoSec Institute, we'll have to work out a similar deal to offer the first-class treatment. Stay tuned.

Something of Note: The 7-day CISSP course will have not 1 but 2 instructors in the class. Best of all is that we will be proctoring the exam on-site for attendees of ChicagoCon only. Along those same lines, this conference portion will NOT be open to the public. I'd love to, but the venue has strict rules on the amount of people we can cram into the auditorium, and we feel it is only fair to allow those who pay for training to be the allowed to attend the conf.

As for course offerings, we're almost set with our lineup. I'll hold off on any official announcement, but rest assured that we will have a cross-section of security courses covering all walks of the industry including newbies, management, compliance, forensics and of course ethical hacking.

The evening presentations will be broken into 2 categories - softcore and hardcore. Softcore will consist of topics like policies and procedures, advancing your security career, etc. Hard core topics will include hacking demos, programming for the security professional, forensic investigations, etc. Presentations will be given by the instructors, our columnists and friends of EH-Net. So although I was considering an open call for papers, we already have plenty of participants. Guess we got lucky.

Hopefully that's enough to get everyone excited. I know I'm about jumping out of my skin.  Shocked

Please offer feedback and suggestions for course offerings as final decision time is upon us.

Thanks again,
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2007, 06:37:13 PM »

Haha, wow! I was just looking for the "so far it's looking great!" line, but a full explanation works too :-D

Sounds very exciting! If I think of anything I'll be sure to post.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2007, 11:54:58 PM »

We may need a few volunteers. So thanks for the offer. I'll PM you.

Any others more interested in this project, please PM me.

Thanks for everything. I'm so excited about this event, I'm about to crawl out of my skin.

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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2007, 11:58:29 PM »

Hi All,

Contracts are signed, deposits have been given, courses are set and at least one major keynote speaker has been scheduled... drum roll please...

I've been rejected by some pretty impressive people for keynote requests, but I can take it because one of my favorite columnists of all time, John C. Dvorak of PCMag and CNet fame said yes to my begging.

As for the courses themselves, we have 2 great partners providing the training for us, the Training Camp and the InfoSec Institute. For the final list of courses, please go to http://www.chicagocon.com and see At-A-Glance on the front page. This is not an official launch of the site as registration details are being finalized and course descriptions are being added. But that should be done in the next day or two. So we're very close.

I do need some feedback on the ChicagoCon site. So feel free to comment.

As for pricing, we have negotiated with both partners to be able to offer discounts to their normal pricing for ALL ChicagoCon attendees. This is an event based on the bootcamp model of training, so it won't be cheap. But your brains will be full of more useful info than you've ever had before. Bottom line, if you want to do a security bootcamp, you'll get more by attending ChicagoCon at a lower price.

Off we go...

Thanks everyone. Hope I make you proud.
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2007, 09:01:02 AM »

Awesome! Smiley
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