And in hindsight, I shouldn't have. I've already said I shouldn't have made an off hand comment without thinking it through. It's my own fault for trying to respond quickly before diving out the office after a long day.

If I've caused any offense, that wasn't my intention, hopefully if you look at my posts you'll see the same. Suggest we draw a line and move on (sorry for jacking the thread), truce?

Pookie,

in my experience trying to 'learn' Linux never works, as I can't retain anything I learn for when I actually need to use the knowledge in real life. Only way I can improve my Linux skills is to actually use it.

If you're mostly using the GUI, don't (I know, sorry) try running on a system without a GUI (all my servers are CLI only), for example take advantage of one of the many free/cheap virtual service hosts and use that to setup something that you're interested in. Or if you don't have a project in mind, setup a LAMP system to run a wiki/blog for you to record the skills/knowledge you're learning whilst doing it.

The knowledge comes with time, in my case I was working on a system (throwing commands at it, seeing what it does) and had an out of body experience, "when did I learn to do that?". It's easier to learn when you don't know you're learning.

J0rdy, didn't mean to cause offense (should think twice before posting off the cuff comments), just a post complaining about typos (and more) having typos made me chuckle.

Mostly typos don't bother me, but I agree that large organisations should probably be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. I know EC-Council used to have detractors complaining about some of the readability of both course material and exams, but I had thought that this was improving over time. Judging the comments in this thread I think I'm being fed incorrect info.

unfortunately we're all human (I'm assuming) and mistakes happen (as you've just proven).

Not ideal, but that's the way things are; there are worse things in life than a typo...

Hardcopy. Sometimes it's just easier to switch off and read a book than to work online.

(and I get less grief from the missus for sitting reading a book, than sitting with a laptop on my knee 24/7 )

H1t M0nk3y,

If you're looking for more info; @digininja just sat, passed and reviewed the Check Team Member exam here

Mirrored as promised

I think this will be the problem, I own several similar resources (Metasploit toolkit for penetration testers and Penetration Testers Open Source Toolkit) but find the material quickly becomes obsolete with continuous development on tools and frameworks.

This is one area that I think the Metasploit Unleased site really thrives, being able to keep up with the latest development within the framework.

I'll probably still add the book to my bookshelf (can't help myself), but don't expect it to stay relevant for too long with the current pace of development within the MSF.

Really? Data_Raid's rapidshare link worked for me. I can mirror elsewhere if you're still having problems...

NothingElse,

I'm hoping someone will correct me if I'm out of date, OSCP was version 2 when I was on the course.

To me the programming requirements were fairly minor, if you've coded in the past and can understand the concepts of loop, conditional statements etc. then you should be fine. I felt that the labs and videos did a good job of gently introducing the requirements, and the examples were easy to follow along with and use as a basis for the exercises.

If you've done some Python/Perl in the past then you should have enough experience to be able to work through the OSCP requirements.

Hope this helps, good luck on the course. Just make sure you enjoy it (you will) and that you TRY HARDER (you'll have too )

Don't know the Scottish market too well (just South of border), but I know from colleagues that the market isn't too strong at present.

However, this could be to your favour, if you can pitch your services either to companies looking to decrease wage bills of full-time staff but still need the skills/knowledge you provide, or organisations who are expanding despite the economic climate and find themselves in need of expertise but can't justify/need fulltime resource you could be a perfect fit.

Good luck in the hunt

Andy,

I'm UK based, but know nothing about Canadian side of things. What info are you looking for?

Rabray,

I'm curious, which part of UK?

Not wanting to sound negative, but if you're relying on a template to provide a strategy then you may be doing it wrong.

Might be better to ask the person/department asking for the information for an example of what they're expecting to see? Will ensure the information is relevant to your business and provide actual value, rather than just being another unused document that provides a tick in the box.

That seems like the defense lawyer is clutching at straws, I'll be interested to see how this plays out.

Unless I'm missing something (legalise isn't my specialty) Gmail is provided by some code (computer software) running on Google's systems (computer system), just because you (the user) can't physically touch the systems that the program is running on should change this.

Anyone got a different interpretation?