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31  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: Questions - required feebacks/views on: October 18, 2006, 10:35:17 PM
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Which of the following statements about a zone transfer correct? (Choose 3)

A. A zone transfer is accomplished with DNS
B. A zone transfer is accomplished with the nslookup service
C. A zone transfer passes all zone information that a DNS server maintains
D. A zone transfer passes all zone information that a nslookup server maintains
E. A zone transfer can be prevented by blocking all inbound TCP port 53 connections
F. Zone transfer cannot occur on the Internet.

Ans: A , C , E

* U need a DNS server to get the zone
* U use the tool nslookup to carry out the zone transfer.

So it all depends on how u interpret the word "accomplished". I would prefer B over A in this case. In the absence of B, the best answer would be A.

But ultimately the correct answer is what the EC council expects, and that only God knows   Undecided

Any comments are welcome from other members.
32  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: Questions - required feebacks/views on: October 16, 2006, 11:18:38 PM
Hi Dareth


Q1
Doug is conducting a port scan of a target network. He knows that his client target network
has a web server and that there is a mail server which is up and running. Dough has been sweeping the network but has not been able to elicit any response from the remote target.
Which of the following could be the most likely cause behind this lack of response?  Select 4

a. UDP is filtered by a gateway
b. The packet TTL value is too low and cannot reach the target
c. The host might be down
d. The destination network might be down
e. The TCP windows size does not match
f. ICMP is filterd by a gateway

ans: A,B,C,D

i thought the answer is A,C,D,F



Although b. is a unlikely situation I would go for b. rather than f. Why ? There are manyways u can do a port scan, its not necessarily ICMP ping. (Ex see NMAP help for different ways of scaning a network or a box). So filtering ICMP probably is not a cause for negative results.

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Q2
You have the SOA presented below in you Zone. Your secondary servers have not been able to contact your primary server to synchronise information. How long will the secondary servers attempt to conact the primary server before it considers that zone is dead and stops responding to queries?
college.edu (200302028 3600 3600 6+4800 3600)

a. 1 day
b. 1 hour
c. 1 week
d. 1 month

Answer: C

i thought the answer is 1 hour??
60sec x 60 = 3600seconds

To my knowladge 1 hr seems to correct. But again I am not a DNS expert.  It seems that the definition of the TTL has changed at some time ( see hxxp://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/soa.html ). Sorry I dont have time to read and give a full explanation.

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Q3
Joe worried that network adminstrator miht detect the wiretap program by querying
the interfaces to see of they are running in promiscuous mode.

a. Block output to the console whenever the user runs ifconfig command by running screen
capture utility
b. Run the wiretap program in stealth mode from being detected by the ifconfig command
c. Repalce original ifconfig utility with the rootkit version of ifconfig hiding
Promiscuous information being displayed on the console
d. You cannor disable Promiscuous mode detection on Linux Systems.

Answer given is D, and I thought answer should be C.


Actual test is definitely wrong here. The answer is C

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Q 4
A following attack on web server using obstructed URL:
http://www.example.com/scri[t.ext?template%2e%2e%2e%2e%2e%2f%65%74%63%2f%7

how to protect information systems from these attacks

A. Configure web server to deny alerts from these attacks
B. Create rules in IDS to alert on strange Unicode requests
C. Use SSL authentication on Web Servers
D. Enable Active scri[ts detection at the firewall and routers.

Answer given is B

The only reason i thought of its IDS deployed infront of the web server (DMZ segment)

what about A? can we configure the webserver to deny unicode request?

Ar you sure u reproduced this question correctly ?
"Configure web server to deny alerts from these attacks" doest make much sense. If the option is  "Configure web server to deny unicode request", then u have a point. This is one of the ambigous questions which I too found in CEH. Both A and B can be correct based on defferent scenarios.

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5.
Bubba has just accessed he preferred ecommerce web site and has spotted an item that he would like to buy. Bubba considers the price a bit too steep. He looks at the source code of the webpage and decides to
save the page locally, so that he can modify the page variables. In the context of web application security,
what do you think Bubba has changes?

A. A hidden form field value.
B. A hidden price value.
C. An integer variable.
D. A page cannot be changed locally, as it is served by a web server.

Answer given is A.

I was thinking whether the answer could be D.
Even the entire page is downloaded into our PC, we changed the value locally, but it doesnt reflect in the server such via POST method...

Answer A is correct. U can save a page locally and change a form field value and resubmit. Most popular ecommerce sites have protection against this. But I can give you u live ecommerce site in the internet where u can do this. U can actully add a $30 item to ur shopping cart with a price tag of $10. But..... it is unethical to disclose the site and it will be even worse it somebody try purchase stuff that way. ..... And "YES" I did go upto the purchase point and "NO" I did not buy anything this way. 

Regards
33  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Google Code Search on: October 10, 2006, 10:48:27 PM
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Hackers find use for Google Code Search
Shortcut for vulnerability seekers (whatever their hat color)


October 06, 2006  (IDG News Service) -- Google Inc. has inadvertently given online attackers a new tool.

The company's new source-code search engine, unveiled Thursday as a tool to help simplify life for developers, can also be misused to search for software bugs, password information and even proprietary code that shouldn't have been posted to the Internet in the first place, security experts said Friday.

Unlike Google's main Web search engine, Google Code Search peeks into the actual lines of code whenever it finds source-code files on the Internet. This will make it easier for developers to search source code directly and dig up open-source tools they may not have known about, but it has a drawback.

"The downside is that you could also use that kind of search to look for things that are vulnerable and then guess who might have used that code snippet and then just fire away at it," said Mike Armistead, vice president of products with source-code analysis provider Fortify Software Inc.

Attackers could also search code for vulnerabilities in password mechanisms, or to search for phrases within software such as "this file contains proprietary," possibly unearthing source code that should never have been posted to the Internet.

Security experts say that the security implications of Google Code Search are noteworthy, if not earth-shattering.

Skilled hackers may already be able to do this type of search with Google's Web search engine, but Code Search is "another tool that makes it a tad easier for the attacker," said Johnny Long, a security researcher with Computer Sciences Corp, in an e-mail interview.

For its part, Google did not have much to say about possible misuse of its new product. "Google recommends developers use generally accepted good coding practices including understanding the implications of the code they implement and testing appropriately," the company said in a statement.

Google has never said much about the steps it takes to cut down on this kind of misuse of its search engine, though the issue comes up from time to time. In July, Websense Inc. used a little known binary search capability within Google Inc.'s search engine to look for malware on the Internet.

While Google Code Search will probably not have much of an effect on popular open-source projects, which are already heavily scrutinized, it could help ferret out vulnerabilities in lesser known pieces of code, according to Lev Toger, a software developer with Beyond Security Ltd.

"Using Google's code search, it's much easier to find interesting code portions," he said via e-mail. "If your task is to find vulnerability in some random code, this filtering can save you a lot of time. "

from http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9003938
34  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: CEH official textbooks on: October 05, 2006, 12:55:35 PM
Hi inobegentleman

First I think u should move this to a new thread as this is a new topic.
second support_xxx is default local user created by microsoft

35  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: [Article]-Sept `06 Free Giveaway Winners on: October 05, 2006, 04:55:31 AM
Congrads for both of you   Grin
36  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: CEH official textbooks on: October 03, 2006, 11:37:01 AM
Acutally I was not talking about the depth or the content or the material, But the writing style. For a person reading the book, it is very obvious that the book has not been proof read. The copy - paste from other documents are so obvious.

I dont think being new to the security is a excuse for putting out a poorly written book. For me it shows the lack of professionlism and the lack of commitent by the ECC for the course.

If I had just seen this book and not known well about the CEH exam, I would judge the CEH qulification at the same level.

And thats BAD for people like us who hold the CEH cert.
37  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / CEH official textbooks on: October 03, 2006, 06:27:29 AM
Hi this a question for all the guys who have done CEH and studying for it. What do you think of the quality of the official text books of the EC council (ECC) ?.

I did my training end last year and found the presentation of content pretty poor.  When it came to describe tools, it looks as the ECC just copied the marketing material form the respective websites. Things like "THE BEST TOOL IN THE MARKET".  Overall I felt that more than 60% of the text was just cut and paste from other sources.

I was dissapointed seeing all this as this reflects badly on ECC and intern the on the certifications they offer  Angry
 
38  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CPTE - Certified Penetration Testing Engineer / Re: CPTS vs CEH on: October 03, 2006, 05:43:13 AM
I am interested in finding out this too. Also how recognised is it compared to CEH ?

39  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: I made it! on: October 03, 2006, 05:34:13 AM
Hi LegioX,

Congradulations

Hope u will stick around. I found out that guys here are pretty cool  Cool. Thats why I stuck around after getting through.  Grin
40  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: Exam question on: October 02, 2006, 12:49:21 AM
agreed.

Once you start running the tools and realise the power behind them, you will never be able to get out if u are serious about security/hacking  Grin
41  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: Exam question on: September 28, 2006, 10:31:57 PM
Well LegioX

If you are targetting the exams try the testking. Did the exam about 2 weeks ago. About 95% of the questions matched word to word with testking. But dont rely on the answers. I havent tried the others though.

My advice/comments on the exam is on thread http://www.ethicalhacker.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,49/topic,665.0/

regards
42  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: Exam question on: September 26, 2006, 11:43:51 PM
There are a lot of CEH questions which does not give proper information to select the answer. I do not think this is a poorly written question by prep vendor but actually this is how CEH present the question. There are more absured questions than this in CEH

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He does not want to attack the system containing the IDS

It looks as the author is trying to say that the IDS should not be trigger any unusual activity. If u consider thhis meaning, a ping flood is out. Since  B, C and D  would trigger the IDS in someway, I would vote for 'A' as the answer.

When u dont have clear cut answer to a question the next best thing would be to eleminate the obvious wrong answers. If you work upwards from here, you will be left with the most possible answer. This is a general advise for any MCQ question.
43  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: CEH question on Snortlogs (form Testking) on: September 25, 2006, 09:16:29 AM

Apr 25 19:37:32 [5875]: IDS230/web-cgi-space-wildcard: 198.173.35.164:4221 -> 172.16.1.107:80


just for curiosity, what does this entry mean. What would trigger "web-cgi-space-wildcard" ? Is it a attempted directory traversal ?
44  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / CEH question on Snortlogs (form Testking) on: September 25, 2006, 12:50:24 AM
Study the log given below and answer the following questions.
 

Apr 24 14:46:46 [4663]: spp_portscan: portscan detected from 194.222.156.169
Apr 24 14:46:46 [4663]: IDS27/FIN Scan: 194.222.156.169:56693 -> 172.16.1.107:482
Apr 24 18:01:05 [4663]: IDS/DNS-version-query: 212.244.97.121:3485 -> 172.16.1.107:53
Apr 24 19:04:01 [4663]: IDS213/ftp-passwd-retrieval: 194.222.156.169:1425 -> 172.16.1.107:21
Apr 25 08:02:41 [5875]: spp_portscan: PORTSCAN DETECTED from 24.9.255.53
Apr 25 02:08:07 [5875]: IDS277/DNS-version-query: 63.226.81.13:4499 -> 172.16.1.107:53
Apr 25 02:08:07 [5875]: IDS277/DNS-version-query: 63.226.81.13:4630 -> 172.16.1.101:53
Apr 25 02:38:17 [5875]: IDS/RPC-rpcinfo-query: 212.251.1.94:642 -> 172.16.1.107:111
Apr 25 19:37:32 [5875]: IDS230/web-cgi-space-wildcard: 198.173.35.164:4221 -> 172.16.1.107:80
Apr 26 05:45:12 [6283]: IDS212/dns-zone-transfer: 38.31.107.87:2291 -> 172.16.1.101:53
Apr 26 06:43:05 [6283]: IDS181/nops-x86: 63.226.81.13:1351 -> 172.16.1.107:53
Apr 26 06:44:25 victim7 PAM_pwdb[12509]: (login) session opened for user simple by (uid=0)
Apr 26 06:44:36 victim7 PAM_pwdb[12521]: (su) session opened for user simon by simple(uid=506)
Apr 26 06:45:34 [6283]: IDS175/socks-probe: 24.112.167.35:20 -> 172.16.1.107:1080
Apr 26 06:52:10 [6283]: IDS127/telnet-login-incorrect: 172.16.1.107:23 -> 213.28.22.189:4558

What can you infer from the above log?
 
A.  The system is a windows system which is being scanned unsuccessfully.
B.  The system is a web application server compromised through SQL injection.
C.  The system has been compromised and backdoored by the attacker.
D.  The actual IP of the successful attacker is 24.9.255.53.
 
 
Answer: A


It looks like one attack was successful and the hacker has access to server. I think the answer is C. Maybe a real snort user can anlyse this log better than me.

The CEH exam may give this same log in 2-3 questions and ask different questions form it.

regards
45  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: I am through !!!!!! on: September 24, 2006, 10:53:19 PM
Hi

Chris G
Thanks for the link. It cleared the UDP doubt I had. And you are right. Some questions does not have a clear answer.(Like the first one I listed). Only God knows what EC think what the correct answer is.

Kev
I need to dig in to the Testking and will do it when I have some free time. This week I will be out of the city.


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