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106  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / How do you study for recertification? on: November 23, 2011, 10:39:12 AM
What do you do to study for recertification when the exam is likely to of changed after ~4 years?  If it's something like SANS do you go through the course again or study the course outline and hope you  got the right material?
107  Resources / Tutorials / Re: whats the best anti virus for clients on: November 23, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
So what are the bad sides?  I think the only bad sides I can think of are either bloated operations and lower success rates at detections.  As I mentioned all AV products have sucked.  Most of the newer products coming out are doing a much better job at keeping their footprint small.  Currently my SEP instance is running under 30 MB (all processes).  ESET at home runs about 20MB (just the AV).  What happens is that people freak out and install 2-3 different anti-malware products that run at the same time (Anti-Virus, Anti-spyware, Firewall etc...).  Most retail anti-virus products come with the whole package and include the ability to detect other malware besides viruses.  The devs are really making sure that their product doesn't muck up the system.

I think alot of products get a bad rep due to users not properly cleaning out temp files and allow for heavy fragmentation to occur which makes the AV products work much harder.

Just my thoughts...

0.  A false positive that removes a critical file, which has happened before... even fairly recently
1.  AV software could have its own vulnerabilities... some have been discovered before
2.  People who don't know any better and have WAY too much confidence in AV software's detection rate
3.  People who think AV software is all they need to protect themselves from malware
4.  AV software can remove important evidence (e.g. remove malware, fix configuration, changes atime on files) and leave an investigator with nothing but a "generic trojan found" to go on.

But yeah, AV software may have problems, but it's usually the average person's only form of detection.
108  Features / Book Reviews / Re: Coding for penetration tester:Building better tools and.. on: November 22, 2011, 05:27:51 AM
@secmoose, Those are some valid points, thanks for the explanation.
109  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: At what point is communication with a company illegal? on: November 21, 2011, 10:25:33 AM
hackthissite.org looks like fun.  Signing up now, thanks! Smiley
110  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: At what point is communication with a company illegal? on: November 21, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
I'd want to do it simply to try out some recon tools.

You raise a good point on ethics.  However, maybe it wouldn't be so unethical if someone were to do recon on a company who collects and sells information on us (e.g. Intelius).  If companies can collect information on me AND sell it, why shouldn't I be able to collect information on them?  Heck, I would just be collecting it, not profiting from it like they are.
111  Features / Book Reviews / Re: Coding for penetration tester:Building better tools and.. on: November 21, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
I didn't read it, but looking at the table of contents it seems over half the book is just being used as an intro to various scripting languages.  There are plenty of other books and resources that cover how to program in whatever language, I wish it chose a specific language like Python and explained how to use it for pentesting.
112  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / At what point is communication with a company illegal? on: November 21, 2011, 07:41:03 AM
I know even attempts at attacking a site is illegal, but what about simply doing recon like downloading publicly available documents from their site and looking at metadata, gathering email addresses, URLs, business partners etc., without the intentions of using that data.  To me, it seems like OSINT is similar to someone in physical security walking into a store and looking at its physical security without any intentions of robbing it.
113  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Hardware you should have during an onsite pentest? on: November 21, 2011, 07:32:40 AM
I forgot about the Ethernet cable, thanks. Smiley

These aren't really technology, but useful:

Fake business cards
Briefcase to get stuff in or out
Clipboard to look like you're working on something
114  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Hardware you should have during an onsite pentest? on: November 19, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
@ChrisG That's a good one, thanks!
115  Features / Skillz / Re: What happened to the challenges? on: November 18, 2011, 01:48:33 PM
eth3real you mean hacker challenges like CTF etc?

I am currently building up a 'pentest network' which will hopefully allow people to VPN and do it in a safe environment Smiley

That sounds awesome.  Are people going to be able to use it for free?  Keep in mind not only would that be useful to penetration testers, but I'm sure it would really help those in forensics if you posted a torrent of the virtual machines and/or communication after the attacks for people to analyze.
116  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Hardware you should have during an onsite pentest? on: November 16, 2011, 12:49:41 PM
Here's what I have so far that could be useful during an onsite pentest:

Pwn Plug
WAP
Hardware key loggers
Infected CDROM labeled something enticing like "layoffs"
Infected USB drive
Teensy USB HID Attack Vector from metasploit
Pen that records audio
Shredder that scans with OCR before shredding (heard about it, but haven't seen one)
Camera to take pictures of sticky notes, documents, etc.

Anything else you guys use?
117  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Re: Virtualbox images for us to secure/hack/analyze? on: November 15, 2011, 02:08:58 PM
Thanks,  I forgot about DVL.  I'll check it out!

My focus isn't really on hacking though, it's more on analyzing attacks.  I think people would learn more about pentesting by attacking boxes someone else secured, and forensic analysts would learn more about attacks that someone else did, etc.

So if someone created an Linux Virutalbox image and secured it, gave it to a pentester to hack it, who then gave it to a forensic analysts to analyze it the whole forum could benefit rather than someone like me who's into forensics trying to play a hacker and investigate what happened when they already know all the answers.

If no one wants to secure an image and leave a vulnerability or two, would someone be interested in hacking DVL/Metasploitable and posting the Virtualbox image and tcpdump log for the forensic forum to analyze and share the evidence of the attack?

118  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Virtualbox images for us to secure/hack/analyze? on: November 15, 2011, 07:41:20 AM
I was thinking it could be fun if we had someone studying for something like GCUX secure an Ubuntu Virtualbox image while leaving a vulnerability or two, then post a torrent of the image somewhere for the Network Pen Testing forum.  Then people could practice hacking it, and someone could post a new torrent of the image/network traffic for people in the Forensic forum to analyze.  They could analyze it and post the malware for the people in the Malware forum to analyze.

Is anyone interested in this?  If so, I'm more of a forensic guy so is there anyone who would want to kick this off?  If no one wants to secure an image, I supposed we could use metasploitable...
119  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: How do you feel about pentests without SE attacks? on: November 11, 2011, 03:43:40 PM
@shaqazoolu I was under the impression that pen testers thought companies were making a big mistake when SE wasn't within scope.  I understand how hacking systems and hacking people could be done separately, but are they really kept separate during most pentests?
120  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / How do you feel about pentests without SE attacks? on: November 10, 2011, 05:58:13 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering about your thoughts on how necessary SE attacks are during a pentest.

Personally, I'd want a pentest done to show me threats/vulnerabilities that I don't know about.  I've read Kevin Mitnick's books and I know darn well SE attacks would work.  I'd rather the pentester give recommendations on how to mitigate it and focus their time on other areas.  What do you think?
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