Quick question on the CEH exam rules folks, tried to find the answer elsewhere to no avail...

Is a calculator allowed in the exam?

The reason I ask is that I notice a number of questions relate to the transforming of a binary number to dotted octet format.

While this is relatively simple up to, let's say 15-16 bits, when the number is an IP address in decimal format... eg 340985945 etc, a list of 32 bits isn't the most manageable with pen and paper.

Or is it?

If you are required to do these with a pen and paper can anyone point me towards a decent tutorial?

I should add, I can subnet quickly in my head so I'm no stranger to binary calculations - just not those in the 300 million range... 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

V...

Don,

Thanks for the reply, I'm sure I'll find my way eventually.

I was really only posting to gauge the content of what I was studying in relation to what to expect in the exams. It seems crazy that on other threads  people talk about exam format and books etc they used to get there but an almighty flaming ensues when the b* word is raised. 

It almost seems like it hits a raw nerve with some posters, maybe those that "doth protest too much"

I have been dancing around the CEH for some time now, I started studying security some time around 2000 and have been involved comercially in security projects, drafting a security policy, have experience with Cisco PIX, ASA's, Bluecoat proxies, Juniper Firewalls, Nokia Checkpoints etc.  I want to adapt my career towards pen-testing and eithical hacking, CEH certification seemed like the next logical step especially after being hit by redundancy almost a year ago.

I'm a qualified CCNP and yes I did get there with the help of braindumps however I have to say that out of a practice pool of 600 questions on the routing exam, not one appeared on the actual exam 

This is partly what my OP was based on - relevancy of testking and sybex questions to actual exam questions.

To the critics of brain dumps, I would defy anyone to state that I'm an any less capable a CCNP than any one of my counterparts. I have over 5 years experience working with organisations such as IBM and HP to prove that.

I'd like to apologise to anyone that my post offended, although I still don't actually see the issue myself. My purpose was never to enrage anyone.

I'll let you know how I get on in the exam.

Thanks for the response.

V...

Didn't really expect that kind of response tbh.

Firstly the EC-Council make no stipulation on braindumps, secondly I think it's a little far fetched and dramatic to call braindumping unethical. Points 3 seems moot as it's a re-stipulation of the questionable point raised in 2

Thank you for posting a lmgtfy link on CEH keywords, I don't find that to be patronising at all... 

Sorry all, I must have stumbled on the wrong forum. I thought this was a community forum for those in the security industry.

Not wanting to enter a discussion about the rights and wrongs of braindumps, for me I don't see it as any different from the past papers I done to practice for university exams. Even the EC-Council are releasing their own practice exams soon 

Certification is a necessary evil in our industry, I think that education and good practical experience is the key in moulding a successful professional, not the answering of a number of random questions on a given subject.

I think we all know that someone who has no knowledge and has just memorised a number of answers isn't going to be best prepared when faced with whatever task they have to do.

Not sure why you responded to my thread at all Seph, if it was just to tell me you wouldn't answer my questions 

Could any mods please advise if my question by its nature is against forum rules etc, as I said in my first post, I'm new to the forum. If braindumping is a taboo subject then I'll desist on posting in this thread.

Thank you

V...

Hello All,

New member to the board here, great forum, hope I can learn a lot from it.

I'm looking to sit my CEH in the next few weeks (v6).

I've got the Sybex Study guide and downloaded TestKing's engine (please before anyone comments - I know that braindumps aren't for learning but I feel that qualifications themselves can be farcical as holding one doesn't necessarily equate to practical ability etc and let's be honest the qualification itself is merely a tick in a box for a skillset that you already have).

I've been pressing along with both and starting to score in the low 80's with testking. I've also worked through the study guide more than once and can answer the vast majority of the review questions...however, I tried the "Bonus Exams" of which there are 2 - contained on the CD.

I can't even muster a 60% with these.

The questions are quite left-field, talking about technologies, applications and features of operating systems that aren't included in the book.

Does anyone else have any knowledge of these? Are these the typical question's I've to expect in the exam? Is testking a reliable measure of my progress against what will typically come up in the exam? etc.

Just to give a bit of background; I'm not new to networks or security. I'm a mid-level network bod with pretty extensive Cisco, Microsoft Server, VoIP and PBX telephony, Web and Security experience. I've got a decent grounding in network technologies etc therefore not totally green with regards to the technologies, vulnerabilities, exploits etc...

I'm just a little concerned at the format I should expect and how I can make this certfication go a bit easier.