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1  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Certification / Re: CISA Advice on: September 30, 2007, 06:09:49 PM
Hi Vp,

The security audit field is very broad and fortunately audit activities aren't restricted to just internal/external audit groups. In fact, you could consider pen testing activities to be an audit or assessment activity.  There are also ample opportunities to implement control self-assessment activities in many organizations due to the ever-increasing regulatory requirements that a lot of businesses face. 

My advice would be to perform comprehensive research on the topic and really decide what path you want to take (maybe both?  Smiley )   The
CISA focuses on the audit process and audit considerations, but is fairly high level when it comes to the technical details of assessment.  The CEH training along w/ your IT background would be a good complement in designing test plans and performing analysis during fieldwork (also check out the IAM).

The job market seems to be good for IT auditors nowadays, especially those w/ security backgrounds.  A piece of advice for college grads and others going in to IT - consider a few years with an internal IT audit group.  You will get a broad view of the corporation and their IT functions, get in front of higher level people (great networking opportunity for the future), and hopefully learn about IT governance and how the business objectives should drive IT decisions.

I spent a little over a year in an IT audit shop after 4 years of security engineering work.  I won't lie, the work was fairly mundane due to various constraints of the business - it all depends on what type of auditing you're allowed to do.  It was, however, a great opportunity to round out some rough edges in terms of risk and control - very valuable experience in the security consulting work that I am now doing. 

Regards,

Matt


Hi Matt,

Thanks for ur brief message, I was planning to do CEH, but due to been longtime working in this dev & testing, i want to get into Security auditing type of roles, Again for CEH certification mandatory is i need security experience to get into the training & certification (training institutes in london said this), whereas felt thisSecurity auditing CISA, CISM, CISSP has wide scope to cover security work (only thing i need entry to the market which is tough even with CEH).
OK coming to the point you have given as high level of technical details of assessment....!i couldnt understand what you mean or point to...could you shed more lights pls...

Regd IAM, i feel its not seen in UK.........i hope its based on US requirement....not sure.

Vp
2  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Certification / CISA Advice on: September 24, 2007, 06:02:20 PM
Hi Friends,

I came across CISA, CISAM, (these are highly paid jobs in UK, not sure about US) though iam not in security field, i intend to get into this line. I have over 10yrs exp in IT industry. Earlier had idea of doing CEH and go into pen tester, but when checking up other resource i feel CISA is intresting and would like to pursue CISM after gaining experience & CISA completion. Could someone guide or advice or shed light on IT Security auditing work nature?, Also my line of path is it good to go in this!

Your advice would be appreciated & advance thanks for it,

Cheers
Vp
3  Resources / News from the Outside World / Re: Bad news for me. The worst! Yikes! on: June 30, 2007, 06:41:03 PM
Hi Mate


As blackzarro said iam also new to this thread, few of the threads i have read your article iam amazed about you, you have been an inspiration for me to study and cont in this line....I used to think Is it ok to study new security technologies at this age though iam in my mid 30's and your thought and your positive determination inspired me and made me to think there is no age for learning....Will pray to god for you.....All prayers will be answered defintely....Keep up your positive thoughts and dont loose hopes..

CHeers
Vp75
4  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: What is the best disto of Linux for hacking? on: June 30, 2007, 06:34:17 PM
You can write shell scripts but any changes you make are only good for that current session. Once you reboot, you have start all over again. If you want a permanent you will either have to do a hard drive install or download the ISO file to your desktop and then edit it and then burn a fresh copy.

Hi Kev

I didnt get  you, what do you mean by edit the ISO downloaded file....pls could you elaborate it....

Vp75
5  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: What is the best disto of Linux for hacking? on: June 29, 2007, 10:23:41 AM
Hi Guys,

Just a quick question in Live CD versionof Unix flavours, when you boot thru livecd we couldnt write any shell scripts and change anything in it....(Am i right)....Then how can it be so helpful for person who learns Linux & security internals where you might need to change the configs often........Is that right! or am i missing something where you can save changes like shell scripts to it...?

Cheers
Vp75
6  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 13, 2007, 05:52:16 AM
Hi Blackzarro

As you said in reply, i manually configured the vmnet8 & vmnet1, was not sure exactly and was trying it. After i posted the netstat & ifconfig,ipconfig result to posting, i restarted the host pc, and now it was able to access router admin by 192.168.0.1, by this if i start using the virtual pc after it boots , i start getting ipaddress conflict in my host pc, i tried looking at the event viewer , it reported as 192.168.0.1 is been assigned to vmnet8 adapter....

From my previous posting you can see that there is no value assigned to vmnet8 &vmnet 1 as 192.168.0.1. So something in my manual configuration is wrong. iam investigating the same.

By the way, why does ipconfig/all shows no ipaddress in host for vmnet8 (i understand vmnet8 is used to connect to internet), so i disabled vmnet1.

Do you find where iam lagging.... conceptually in configuring....!

I hope on looking at your virtual lab setup i will be get some idea...

Cheers
Vp75
7  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 12, 2007, 04:53:41 PM
Hi ChrisG

Thanks for ur help.

hi Blackzarro

Atlast you would be surprised to hear this, iam posting this reply from Suse linux broswer (konqueror) Grin

I was not sure how it was configured to access net, i suspect i installed dhcp configuration from suse dvd and from there it started working. I hope it didnt had proper dhcp modules to extract or not sure iam bluffing something dumb....

Now to the problem side,

I couldnt open 192.168.0.1 router configuration admin page.....! not sure whats happening.

Anyway as u requested iam posting the ifconfig -a command execution:

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:29:A4:D2:FB
          inet addr:192.168.0.128  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::20c:29ff:fea4:d2fb/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:612 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:398 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:296580 (289.6 Kb)  TX bytes:53178 (51.9 Kb)
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0x2024

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:3260 (3.1 Kb)  TX bytes:3260 (3.1 Kb)

sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
          NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

And here comes Netstat -nr:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 eth0
127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U         0 0          0 lo
0.0.0.0         192.168.0.2     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0

And here is ipconfig/all from Host windows xp home
Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vp
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-ED-F0-CE

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet8
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG111T 108Mbps Wireless USB2
.0 Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-5D-C7-DA
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xxx.xx
                                            xxx.xx.xxx.xx
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12 June 2007 20:50:48
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 15 June 2007 20:50:48

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Anyhelp friends....

Cheers
Vp75
8  Columns / Heffner / Re: [Article]-Intro to C on: June 12, 2007, 05:17:20 AM
Hi

Nice article, would love to see some articles in basic assembly coding in C

Cheers
Vp75

9  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 11, 2007, 07:29:25 AM
Hi Blackzarro

Thanks for ur reply , i got the ifconfig details, stored it as a file, but couldnt copy it across copy&paste to windows from virtual pc or not sure how to bring the stored file from vmware to windows....!
will post very soon,
cheers
Vp75
10  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 08, 2007, 01:51:37 AM
Hi Blackzarro

ifconfig in linux didnt fetch me any result, , i got error message as
bash: ifconfig : command not found. But when i try man ifconfig it displays help information on ifconfig command, so couldnt get details about linux config details,
Got details about host OS with ipconfig/all

---------------------------------------------------------------
Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : XXX
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet8
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.36.1
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.145.1
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-ED-F0-CE

Ethernet adapter AGN Virtual Network Adapter:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : AGN Virtual Network Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-01
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG111T 108Mbps Wireless 2.0 Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-5D-C7-DA
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx
                                            xx.xx.xx.xx
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 07 June 2007 20:56:02
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 10 June 2007 20:56:02
---------------------------------------------------------------
Hope this wil help me....

Updating @17:00 GMT - ifconfig executed only when iam logged in as root, couldnt copy & paste the details across Guest OS to Host OS...will post it soon.

CHeers
Vp75
11  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 06, 2007, 01:18:19 PM

Ok, now that I have a clear picture of basically what you have setup as of now, lets proceed with your problem. We are going to tackle this one step at a time.

Let start first with the problem that you are having saving configurations settings and data on your Knoppix OS. Based on the information that you've provided, if you boot Knoppix using the iso image then all your settings, softwares or scripts won't be saved, that is because all this information is being temporarily  stored into your computer's ROM. As soon you shutdown Knoppix all this data is lost. Some Linux distros that are designed to function as a live cd will usually have sets of commands to save this data to a media disk, for instance, a usb flash drive. When you boot the system up with the usb plugged in to your computer, you'll then execute the appropriates commands to restore your saved settings. This is kind of a hassle so I preferred to use VMware or VMX Builder to create a virtual machine by installing the OS onto a virtual hard drive. For an example, please refer to Irongeek's video on how to do this with VMX Builder. In that way, every time you configure a setting or download a software, this data will be saved on your virtual hard drive where your virtual machine resides.

I will like to mention that some virtual appliances that you see in VMware website are preconfigured to use the OS iso image and others are created as vitural machines. The virtual machine has a VMware virtual disk file (with file extension .vmdk). The VMware player uses either the iso image or virtual disk file to boot the OS.

After you've solved this problem we'll go ahead and try to fix your internet connection problems.

Note: I'm not an expert in VMware or virtualization software so if anybody finds errors on what I've written, please jump in and correct me. Thanks



Hi blackazarro

Atlast got Virtual workstation and alloted 5GB space for SUSE linux initially to start with. Now everything is fine except the net connection setup...guys pls help me to move forward on setting the net access in linuz, FYI i have got the NAT setup in virtual pc, i tried giving entry for default gateway, still couldnt get it, tried pinging my windows pc (host) it recognizes.....so ....not sure where iam missing entry....

Cheers
Vp75
12  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 06, 2007, 02:00:22 AM
Hi blackazarro

thanks for your reply, i think i would prefer to install it in virtual pc and go on with that, and with virtual workstation or virtual server i think i will be able to achieve that. Will be installing this today and will try it. Will keep updating you about it soon....

CHeers
Vp75
13  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 03, 2007, 04:53:21 PM

Hi vp75,

First of all, I need some information from you so I can continue troubleshooting your problem.

1. What is your host OS (the physical, real OS running on your computer)?

2. What is your guest OS (this is the OS that you want to run virtually from your host OS)?

3. Are you booting the guest OS using the VMware playrer via a preinstalled virtual machine (installed guest OS using virtualization software like VMware Server or VMX builder) or from an iso image?

4. Did your create your virtual lab at home and are you using a SOHO router?

Hi

Oops, i should have provided these information before i write the query, anyway,

1. My Host is Windows XP Home edition,
2. I want to run Knoppix 5.1.0 version.
I downloaded Knoppix 5.1.0 virtual machine thru link provided by vmware website, it had set of files .nvram, .vmdk, .vmx and one livecd.iso(this is just a dummy iso file and needed to download orinial .iso file from knoppix.net which i downloaded and renamed as livecd.iso)
Everything was placed in directory as given in negrita on vmware setting up article)
3. iam booting guest OS thru vmplayer where it asks to open .vmx file and from there it checks for livecd.iso image file and boots it, there is no vmserver or i didnt create thru vmx builder.)
4. No i didnt create using vmx builder.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
Vp75
14  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Setting up Vitrual Lab on: June 02, 2007, 05:12:44 PM
quote author=blackazarro link=topic=1369.msg4977#msg4977 date=1180737930]

Vp75, it appears that you're a bit confuse and that's ok. I was also confuse when I started to learn about VMware and virtual machines. I encourage you to reread Negrita's article carefully. What ever linux distro you download, you have to use a virtualization software in order to convert it to a virtual machines. Then use the VMware Player to boot-up the linux OS or whatever OS you interested in.

As for the knoppix distro, download the iso image and burned this to a cd. In your burning cd software, make sure to choose the option for burning iso image to a cd. Then use VMware Server or VMX Builder as I mentioned before, to create the virtual machine. This step here is similar to installing a OS on your system but you are doing it virtually. I haven't used knoppix for while but I think this distro does have an option to install it on a hard drive.

After successfully installing knoppix virtually you can add scripts, download applications and configure settings in your virtual machine and this will be saved.

Suse and Knoppix are two different linux distribution, for complete info refer to the following links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoppix

Vp75, if you still having problems in creating and playing virtual machines, I recommend that you check EH-NET forums for any information that will help you on the subject or create a new forum topic so we can address your problems there. I would like to keep this forum topic CEH related Wink  ,thanks.
[/quote]

Hi blackazarro ,

Thanks for your reply, as it is about setting up virtual lab iam taking this as a new topic , hope iam in right place now.

blackazarro , i installed knoppix 5.1.0 and downloaded 5.1.0 iso live cd and renamed as per negrita post and able to open knoppix in vmplayer. Iam able to ping both side and i have got the ethernet selection as NAT, Anyway dynamic ipaddress is assigned to virtual pc and am able to ping both the host & guest, but not able to use internet or connect to internet in virtual pc, iam  not sure of what setting needs to be done in knoppix.

Also iam not able to save any desktop configuration in virtual pc, does it needs to be with any write permission, bcoz when i tried setting read/write permission i had message saying it should be mounted....! how does virtual pc have space to store scripts...?

Does any one have idea....or clue about it,

Cheers
Vp75
15  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / CEH - Certified Ethical Hacker / Re: What is the best disto of Linux for hacking? on: June 01, 2007, 05:11:45 PM
Hi Kev, Negrita,

Thanks a lot guys, i was wondering which one to use out of two option Knoppix & Suse linux, iam not going for knoppix version as i have ECcouncil manual with me which would help a lot i going a head.

Cheers
Vp
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