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151  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Wireless / Re: Trackingdown via Wardriving on: June 22, 2011, 01:14:07 PM
Good call on the tax info, you are right sometimes get to excited and forget about the simple stuff :-D
152  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Wireless / Re: Trackingdown via Wardriving on: June 22, 2011, 11:42:53 AM
Well doing that would be wrong and get you into trouble.  You know who the kid is from the school right, could you ask the school for his address?  maybe find it on his facebook page? 
153  EH-Net / Ethical Hacktivism / Re: So, whats your opinion about Lulzsec??? on: June 22, 2011, 11:37:27 AM
I am sorry but they are going to far and the people hunting them have more funds backing them they will get caught someday.
154  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Wireless / Re: Trackingdown via Wardriving on: June 22, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
I'm the owner of the laptop. A report was made to the police 3.5 weeks ago, but the cops can't get information from the High school because CPS schools seal student records to everyone until the student graduates (Even to CPD, unless the student gets into an altercation on campus where Police have to get involved)

Subpoenaed Comcast 3 weeks ago, and it takes 12 days to process a subpoena, but when I called the cop yesterday asking about the subpoena status, he asked me what subpoena? And then tried to say he had submitted it weeks ago but Comcast had not gotten back to him yet. So I’m assuming that this is a dead end.

I got the information by recording what he does on the computer using Logmein Central. But, to date, he has yet to do anything with an address, just mostly facebook and pron.

The goal of this is to get the address, or a contact number for the home so the police can reclaim the laptop and possibly some of the other 5 grand in equipment that was stolen. I've got access to the command prompt (Logmein Central allows you to run it in the background), a way to drop files into the computer and the ability to remote control the laptop.

Open to basically anything, I just want my stuff back.

1) http://www.whatismyip.com/tools/ip-address-lookup.asp
2) get the ISP
3) call the ISP you got the guys last name Wink
4) get the address from the ISP
155  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Wireless / Re: Trackingdown via Wardriving on: June 22, 2011, 11:14:46 AM

He has all the guy's personal information, name age which highschool he went to, what his external IP is ect. (he has logmein on the computer) problem is the guy turns the laptop off when he's not using it.

How does he have all this informtion?

Like I said in my post LogMeIn, it's a remote desktop service. So we do have remote control of the laptop but the guy never leaves it on, only has it on when he uses it.

And I'd imagine if we just started controlling the desktop he would shut off the computer and ditch it. So we've only been using it for watching.



Sorry I missed that part, was reading fast
156  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Wireless / Re: Trackingdown via Wardriving on: June 22, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
My friend's laptop was stolen.

If he knows where it is why does he just not go to the police?

He has all the guy's personal information, name age which highschool he went to, what his external IP is ect. (he has logmein on the computer) problem is the guy turns the laptop off when he's not using it.

How does he have all this informtion?

So my friend sits there everyday and watching him on the laptop trying to find a moment to grab the laptop and use it real quick. It's a win7 machine with some antivirus. He moused over the network icon and saw he was attached to Linksys.

Did he break into the guys house to get this information?  This guy is running a Linksys router without changing the SSID?


Which is a bummer through tracing his external IP we know the neighborhood, and planned on going wardriving to hunt for the SSID, but with it being linksys we're gonna get a few results.

How did you get his external IP?  If you know his external IP there is no need to war drive Wink.

Now I know that using netsh in win7 you can do something like a show wlan /all and get the mac address for the wireless network so we can pinpoint it.

Why are you using windows 7?  Linux is needed makes life much easier.  This wont work unless you are connected to his network and if its secured which I am sure it is, it is not going to be easy.

but as well. but with it possibly being an old linksys do you guys know if maybe I could do something to like get the netbios against the internet address to get the mac that way. As a moment of time to type commands on the laptop hasn't presented it's self?

Now with all that said.  Are you trying to gain access to your friends laptop in this other guys house? If so why are you trying to do this? If the laptop is his does he have proof its his?  If so call the cops and get it back.
157  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: OSCP vs Hacking Dojo on: June 22, 2011, 10:33:16 AM

1) VM's take away the ability to allow you to hack wireless.
2) VM's there are no routers or switches to go through.
3) Its a Fake network.

Yes everyone is going VM's but in your fake VM lab you don't have what I have stated above which are huge parts of businesses.

If you look at me have a laptop that can hold alot but no switch's, router's, extra so having something like that available to practice I feel is more real word.  Does this make more sense when I say you know what I mean?

1 - VMs allow direct access to USB attached devices, including USB wireless adapters. I can hack wireless all day from within a VM.

2 - take a look at GNS3, my virtual lab includes routers running Cisco IOS, switch modules on those routers and also the generic switches that come with GNS3. I have also recently connected my virtual environment to some real world physical switches and it works flawlessly.

3 - Why is it fake? What determines real or not? I'm still sending and receiving packets. It really depends on how you configure your environment. I can include physical devices if I wish to, or keep it isolated or anything in between. It's the flexibility with the click of a button that is so powerful. The main downside is that the VM environment is not natively identical to your real world environment, but if it gets you 95% of the way (or closer) there for 5% of the cost then that's a no-brainer to me. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

That being said, there ARE instances where running in a VM can cause problems, like for VM aware malware that changes characteristics based on whether it's running in a VM or not. This is usually to counter RE tactics. Snapshots are godly!  Grin

In the VM it does not show up as a wireless device it comes through the host machine and it shows up as a Ethernet card not wireless device.

So with GNS3 you are able to use your vms in the environment as well?  This looks cool I have been using Packet Tracer to practice for my Cisco certs.

Yeah I agree on point three but it was designed by you making a hacking challenge 100% easier because you know all the configs of all the devices this is the major draw back here.

I agree snap shots are amazing. 
158  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: OSCP vs Hacking Dojo on: June 21, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
Ok, from the diagrams I saw online there was some sort of firewall that you had to get through I just assumed it was some sort of router.
159  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: OSCP vs Hacking Dojo on: June 21, 2011, 07:21:14 PM
But the subject at hand here had to do with a at home lab but this is going no where I am sorry should of been more specific.
160  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: forum position on: June 21, 2011, 05:13:14 PM
I see, thanks alot everyone.
161  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: OSCP vs Hacking Dojo on: June 21, 2011, 05:09:01 PM
A vm is just not as real as a real machine you know what I mean? 

Actually, no. Not sure what you mean. Smiley Considering everyone is consolidating to VM Systems, I think a VM is more real world like than not.

1) hosting sites are leveraging hardware costs by doing VMs
2) companies are doing the same in rented data centers by buying blades and moving to vms. Or buying pizza box servers and installing VMS

Cloud? Yep...

I'm reading the latest edition of Hacking Exposed: Web Applications (3rd edition), and it talks about people using VMs too. My examples I listed above though were from personal experience.

1) VM's take away the ability to allow you to hack wireless.
2) VM's there are no routers or switches to go through.
3) Its a Fake network.

Yes everyone is going VM's but in your fake VM lab you don't have what I have stated above which are huge parts of businesses.

If you look at me have a laptop that can hold alot but no switch's, router's, extra so having something like that available to practice I feel is more real word.  Does this make more sense when I say you know what I mean?
162  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: UK Cyber Challenge is up and running on: June 21, 2011, 02:12:07 PM
NM I found it http://workforce.cisecurity.org/
163  EH-Net / Greetings / Re: Just saying Hello on: June 21, 2011, 02:08:33 PM
Welcome
164  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: UK Cyber Challenge is up and running on: June 21, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
You know if they got anything like this for people in the US :-D how strict are they on the postcode?
165  EH-Net / Greetings / Re: Checking in on: June 21, 2011, 02:03:50 PM
Welcome B345T this is an amazing site you will learn alot here about ethical hacking.  Hope you have a good time.
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