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1  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Other / Re: Go Bulls! on: April 30, 2007, 09:26:01 AM
Wow, they are that far into the playoffs.  Way to much Metasploit for me.  I usually start watching the playoffs.  Dang.

Go Mavs!!

Cutaway
2  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Hardware / Re: Hard Firewall? on: April 28, 2007, 12:57:06 AM
I am going to recommend http://www.pfsense.com/.  Quick and easy to install.  I comes with some great features and it is built on top of FreeBSD.

Either way you will learn.

Good luck,
Cutaway
3  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: New here on: April 26, 2007, 10:21:37 AM
Saber123316:

First off welcome to our little community.  We hope you find it helpful and contribute often.

You have started as many people start.  I will tell you, and most here will probably do the same, that you need to stop analyzing your school's network because you will, eventually, get into very big trouble and your career in IT will grind to a halt.  NEVER, analyze anybody's network without WRITTEN permission.  So, if you are going to be helping your school get with your system administrators and write up a plan or contract.  If you are going to be helping your friend crack his wireless network you may want to get him to put it in writing in case you ever have a falling out.  The key to this game is to learn as much as you can while protecting your integrity and not crossing the line into illegal activity.

Now that all of that is out of the way here is some more guidance.  The questions you are asking are typical and have generally been answered.  Search here, search Google/Yahoo, Search other forums.  A good wireless forum (after you search here) is http://www.kismetwireless.net/forum.php or http://www.wardrivingonline.com/.

You are off to a good start.  Keep us informed with your finds and questions and we'll be glad to help.

Go forth and do good things,
Cutaway
4  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Advantages of training ethical hackers on: April 24, 2007, 12:38:00 PM
Hmm, I'll start this with some Sun Tzu quotes from Wikiquote http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu (because it is fun):

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  • It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperilled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperilled in every single battle.
  • The more you read and learn, the less your adversary will know.
  • Now the reason the enlightened prince and the wise general conquer the enemy whenever they move and their achievements surpass those of ordinary men is foreknowledge.
  • The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.
  • Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy.
  • And therefore those skilled in war bring the enemy to the field of battle and are not brought there by him.
  • When the enemy is at ease, be able to weary him; when well fed, to starve him; when at rest, to make him move. Appear at places to which he must hasten; move swiftly where he does not expect you.
  • etc

I think that we can all agree that these apply in some form or fashion.  Although some will like certain sayings better than others.

The point is that ethical hackers obtain their skills so that they can make a difference. If the only hackers out there are unethical hackers then there is only defense and no way to test the defenses.  This is a losing proposition.

Here is a real world example.  We have good police officers and we have police officers who act unethically.  Are you willing to dismiss all police officers because of the potential for an unethical element?

Go forth and do good things,
Cutaway
5  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: [Article]-EH-Net - BackTrack Design Contest on: April 24, 2007, 11:22:07 AM
Submitted.  And I am graphic design challenged! Grin
Cutaway
6  Columns / Wilson / Re: [Article]-Free WiFi in Airports and Public Hotspots on: April 23, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
In the News on Mike Rothman's blog: http://securityincite.com/TDI-2007-04-23#TBP1

Cutaway
7  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Other / Re: Conferences on: April 20, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
On the first day of the conference you should arrive a little early.  You are going to have to go through a manual or automated sign in process.  There you will be given your credentials and a schedule of sessions, classes, and vendor expos.  Most conferences do not make you sign up for specific events that are open to all attendees.  Generally there is room for all comers.

Good luck and have fun,
Cutaway
8  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Finding Entire network activity on: April 20, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
Although you say:

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No, no. No non ethical reasons here (not really anyway)

You actually mean, "Yes, for non-ethical reasons" when you say:

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The second reason is mostly being curious, at work. I wanted to know if any other staff were budging just browsing the net like I was.

Although these may be in violation of your companies policies and procedures you are definitely treading on unethical grounds here.  This is the essence of ethical behavior, looking at something that might not be against the rules but think that "Hey, maybe I should not able or permitted to do this." 

If you have a concern about you colleagues business related activities then you need to bring it up with your management.  Of course, be ready to be critiqued yourself.  Management can the take it up with their IT staff or, if you are the IT staff, they can authorize you to take action.  In other words, as we always say here, "Always get written permission."

Of course, you will have to notify all of the personnel working at your business that they are being monitored.  You will want to check into bannering for all of your systems and all of the methods of access.  Then, once the banners are in place, you will need to train all of your personnel on the new policy and how if affects them before you can hold them responsible for adhering to it.

So, although looking at the information transiting the wire might be fun, is it worth your job or, possibly to likely, jail time?

Go forth and do good things,
Cutaway
9  Features / April 07 - Microsoft Office Space / Re: [Article]-Microsoft Office Space: A SQL With Flair on: April 19, 2007, 01:09:35 PM
I was going to print this out so that I can review it at my leisure but the PDF and PRINT options appear to be broken.

Thanks,
Cutaway
10  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Testing my xoops on: April 19, 2007, 08:30:15 AM
Calimar,
 
   Testing web applications is not something that you just jump into and get done.  There are many factors to it.  My suggestion to you is that you first consider how you have deployed your application.  You should look at resources like OWASP http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page which has guides to secure deployment and considerations for writing scripts that permit user interaction.  You will also find some useful guides to assessing your applications and tools to assist with the assessment.

   Don't forget to check out the XOOPS forums http://www.xoops.org/modules/newbb/.  I am willing to bet that somebody here has had the same experiences you have and they will be able to assist you.  If nobody has experienced your problems then the experts monitoring these forums are going to want to know about your issues so that they can begin to address them within their environments.

Go forth and do good things,
Cutaway
11  EH-Net / News Items and General Discussion About EH-Net / Re: [Article]-March 2007 Free Giveaway - Winners! on: April 18, 2007, 04:13:03 PM
Great job to you both.
Cutaway
12  Resources / Tools / Re: Sensepost releases "Aura" on: April 18, 2007, 12:48:59 PM
Wkto and BiDiBLAH are great tools that really require this extra functionality to provide the features that set them apart from other tools.   Adding AURA to give back this functionality is a great resource. 

Hopefully Google provides people with another way to utilize their services.  It is too bad that they don't have a problem changing how they do things at a moments notice and without notification.  If Microsoft did this people would riot.

Cutaway
13  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Hardware / Re: Help with Advanced networking (Wireless bridging) on: April 16, 2007, 11:25:10 PM
You are not going to have a problem connecting your Linksys Wireless Router to your DSL/Router.  Just configured the Wireless Router for DHCP and it should obtain a IP address from the DSL/Router.  I would suggest that you change the LAN network for the Wireless router to a different NAT range (i.e 192.168.2.1) that way you do not have conflicts.

For your wired lab you are probably going to need a switch with 48 ports.  You should be able to pick on up from CompUSA or order it on Ebay or Craig's List.

Opps, I just got it.  You want to connect the two routers using wireless.  Well, you should take a look at this tutorial over at DD-WRT: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge although I suggestion you flash with OpenWRT http://openwrt.org/ which also has a tutorial at http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration#head-aba1228974499bb5dcaffdb2c3d45b07bcab2013.

Good luck,
Cutaway
14  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Hardware / Re: Sparring Begins Over High-Def Movie Hacks on: April 12, 2007, 08:48:46 AM
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As an anti-piracy measure the system only allows high-definition video output over a monitor connection that supports copy protection.

What?  Now my monitor connection has to support copy-writing protections?  That is just wrong.  These things are starting to spread too far.  These protections need to be limited to the media and the software involved with reading it.  Somebody needs to grab these guys by the throat and tell them to knock it off.  (I know, that is not very PC but neither are they.)

Cutaway
15  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Other / Re: Old laptop on: April 10, 2007, 11:04:39 AM
Wow, I didn't realize that Kevan was talking about that type of system. 

Kevan, whoever suggested this to you must have been pulling your leg.  If you found these because they were cheap, well, you have to remember that you need a system that can run uptodate software.  The majority of operating systems that can run on this Compaq are no longer supported.  Sure they still run but they will have security flaws.  Plus most of the tools you are going to want to use will not work either. 

I suggested you go no lower than this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-LATITUDE-WIRELESS-LAPTOP-PIII-500-MHz-WIRELESS-NET_W0QQitemZ120106382481QQihZ002QQcategoryZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You can usually get these for somewhere around $100-$200.  If you can save a little more then you could get an even better laptop.  But that is up to you.  Just be careful with ebay sellers.  Always read the descriptions and try to get the seller on the phone and have them explain what you are getting.  Make sure that everything works including the power supply and battery.  The last thing you want to do is shell out for these which will double the cost of your laptop.

Good luck,
Cutaway
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