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61  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: My Experience With Hackingdojo Ripped Off My Money on: October 19, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Wow.

I got through as much of this thread as I could take.

The bottom line is this:


- Yes, you are absolutely, 100%, allowed to ask for/request a refund for whatever you want, regardless of what your reasons are.

- No, you will not always be given a refund


My opinion is this: I do not think you are entitled to a refund and I support the decision already made by Thomas/HackingDojo.

However, I will refund you $5 USD if you stop posting (in this thread/about this topic)

+ 5USD
62  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: Suplementing with samurai skills? on: September 25, 2012, 09:03:07 PM
I reply to things and actions I don't agree on.

That is, unfortunately, about all you do. You've got one of the highest posts-per-day counts, yet you're at bottom in terms of posts-to-substance. Aside from your initial enthusiasm, you've done very little besides whine or instigate.

These forums provide a rare opportunity for ethical hacking and infosec novices to interact with experienced professionals (who graciously take time out of their insane schedules to respond). I'm not sure how you haven't picked up on this by now, but this isn't a place where people just dump out every empty, unfiltered thought that crosses their minds. I think you've confused these forums with Twitter. You've single-handedly brought a level of immaturity to these forums that I haven't seen in the four years I've been here.

Go sit in your dark room, look in the mirror, laugh hard and yell 'I have all the powers!' and be done with it. That might fix a lot of your issues.

Yes, ignoring his professional experience, numerous years and 1000+ insightful posts here, and reality, I think you nailed it. I can't believe that you alone were able to quickly decipher this situation while everyone else was fooled for years. You truly are amazing, and it's a shame you're going into security and not psychology.

The thing you don't seem to understand is that your actions are only hurting yourself. No one is getting upset or offended at your posts, and no one is impressed by the played-out internet bad-ass routine. You've only succeeded in burning bridges and removing value for yourself.

It's completely fine to disagree and state your opinion in a polite and respectful manner, and this is in fact how great discussions come about. The subtle and not-so-subtle responses you've received up until now have truly been attempts to just get you to stop spilling YouTube-quality comments all over the forums.

Please don't feel obligated to respond; everyone already knows what you're going to say, verbatim.
+ 1 ...........now let's stop feeding the troll. Nothing to see here folks, keep it moving...
63  Resources / Tutorials / Re: Basic Priv Esculation for newbi on: August 29, 2012, 02:24:46 PM
You guys can also check this:
http://www.room362.com/blog/2012/8/25/post-exploitation-command-lists-request-to-edit.html
64  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Re: SANS Work-Study experience on: August 26, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
Welcome to eh.net Smiley

I tried for that program in the past without success. I will probably try again in the future. Looking forward to your review.
65  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Web Applications / Re: Beginners tips for testing web applicaiton on: August 25, 2012, 05:59:50 AM
Has anybody used the ClickJacking tool recently? Got a few questions.
No but there's plenty of resources on how to conduct click-jacking attacks including a few demo's on various websites.  Grin
Are you saying I should actually go and do some research?  Grin  Grin
#lazyweb

66  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Web Applications / Re: Beginners tips for testing web applicaiton on: August 24, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
Has anybody used the ClickJacking tool recently? Got a few questions.
67  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / OSCP - Offensive Security Certified Professional / Re: OSCP Fail on: July 02, 2012, 02:49:39 PM
I agree with the early start. I started at 7AM after a good night sleep.

[O/T] What time did you start for the OSCE?  Grin
68  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / BeEF In Areal World Pentest on: June 28, 2012, 10:02:18 AM
Interesting...........
http://blog.beefproject.com/2012/05/beef-in-real-world-pen-test-part-1.html
http://blog.beefproject.com/2012/05/beef-in-real-world-pen-test-part-2.html
http://blog.beefproject.com/2012/06/beef-in-real-world-pen-test-part-3-hot.html
http://blog.beefproject.com/2012/06/beef-in-real-world-pen-test-part-4.html
69  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Pen test for Cross-Site Scripting (Expect Header) question. on: June 28, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
The real question is if the javascript is executed by the browser or just displayed as text

><script>alert('XSS')</script>
Agreed.
70  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: Pen test for Cross-Site Scripting (Expect Header) question. on: June 28, 2012, 09:39:38 AM
Ok I am not sure if I am missing something but according to RFC 2616
isn't the 417 response normal? Is he saying your device should support this behavior?

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The Expect request-header field is used to indicate that particular server behaviors are required by the client.

      Expect       =  "Expect" ":" 1#expectation
      expectation  =  "100-continue" | expectation-extension
      expectation-extension =  token [ "=" ( token | quoted-string )
                               *expect-params ]
      expect-params =  ";" token [ "=" ( token | quoted-string ) ]
A server that does not understand or is unable to comply with any of the expectation values in the Expect field of a request MUST respond with appropriate error status. The server MUST respond with a 417 (Expectation Failed) status if any of the expectations cannot be met or, if there are other problems with the request, some other 4xx status.

This header field is defined with extensible syntax to allow for future extensions. If a server receives a request containing an Expect field that includes an expectation-extension that it does not support, it MUST respond with a 417 (Expectation Failed) status.

Comparison of expectation values is case-insensitive for unquoted tokens (including the 100-continue token), and is case-sensitive for quoted-string expectation-extensions.

The Expect mechanism is hop-by-hop: that is, an HTTP/1.1 proxy MUST return a 417 (Expectation Failed) status if it receives a request with an expectation that it cannot meet. However, the Expect request-header itself is end-to-end; it MUST be forwarded if the request is forwarded.

Many older HTTP/1.0 and HTTP/1.1 applications do not understand the Expect header.
71  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Other / Re: What are these wierd IP addresses? on: June 15, 2012, 09:28:26 AM
Check out ProcessHacker http://processhacker.sourceforge.net/
Have a look at the network tab to see the ports in use by the different services. The tool is similar to those mentioned above but it has a lot more to offer.
72  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Security / Certification Sticky Section on: June 12, 2012, 04:50:51 PM
Hi Don,
Just a quick thought. In fact I think this has already been suggested, but can we have a sticky section with all the posts describing the various certifications etc. A lot of persons seem to be asking the same questions re getting started, or which cert is best suited for a particular position etc. And in most cases the response is always from previous responses. I agree they could always use the search function but you know how that goes........

So we could a have a sticky section that says "Read here first etc"

Thoughts??
73  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Re: need advice: which cert to go for on: June 12, 2012, 01:42:24 PM
Thanks a tonns DARK_KNIGT. U gave a heavenly direction. Thanks alot. One more question, if u have time.
    Is pentesting or hacking skill mandatory for gorensics and if yes, then upto what level? I love to learn pentesting skills but  I have a dream to go for forensics only. What would u suggest? Is forensics considered next step of pentesting/hacking or is it parallel on knowledge grounds?
   Thanks...
I wouldn't say pentesting is mandatory to get into forensics. The two are separate disciplines. What I will say though is that as a penester with forensics skills with no doubt set himself apart from the rest.
74  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Re: need advice: which cert to go for on: June 12, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
Jason, dark_knight ! Thanks for posting. I understand i have to get into doing it all. I am absolutely ready for that. I have my own VM Ware lab for that. But i should know atleast what to choose. There are plenty of courses out there. But which one will suit me at this situation. Offcourse i will sign up for a security course. And seriously i have money saved for just that only. One bitter truth is that:-  torrent is stealing only. I accept it.
    Ok apart from this can someone suggest me the path? I'll be very grateful.

This should get you started:
http://infiltrated.net/TechnicalSecurityRoadmap.html#

Sil:
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I think you need to pick your own poison and go from there. Think of security in terms of a baseball team. Here you are saying: "I want to play which position should I aim for?" What are your strengths and weaknesses. Focus on your weaknesses to bring them up to par with your strengths while in parallel upping your strengths.

In security, there are a lot of avenues to choose from. Forensics, pentesting, application security, cryptography, networking, etc. Each have their unique methodologies, technologies, protocols, pros and cons.

Examples:

++++++++++

Forensics. Where would you want to fit in? Working as an incident responder researching malware, researching e-Discovery, researching the cause of a compromise? What field? Pros: Banking, insurance, defense industries, huge Fortune 100s are always in demand for these types of individuals.

Cons: Job can be linear, stressful, repetitive.

Certifications: (real world relevant) GCFE, GCFA, EnCe, GCIH, ACE, CCE, GREM, WCNA (Wireshark), GCIA

++++++++++

Pentesting: Where would you want to fit in? Define pentesting. Too many companies have turned this field into a tool (Core Impact, Metasploit, Nessus, etc) however there is more to pentesting than running tools. In order to fit into a well rounded position, the document I linked you too will give you excellent foundations needed. You then need to progress into a more linear stage (focus on applications (which web application, business applications (SAP, etc)).

Pros: Can be fun, creative, non-linear (no two pentests are ever the same)

Cons: Industry has created too many retards that rely far too much on tools. Many industries are now mandated to have penetration testing (PCI requirement). With that stated, many companies are relying on point and click drop boxes (QualysGuard) and calling it a "pentesting day."

Certifications: (the ones that count) GPEN, CEPT, OSCP, OSCE, CPT, RWSP

++++++++++

Network security: Where would you want to fit in? Managing firewalls, IPS, IDS, DLP, acronym hell? Performing network analysis' with tools and hardware such as nGenius, Netwitness, Wireshark, etc., this can criss-cross the forensics realm.

Pros: ALL COMPANIES need network security period.

Cons: Can be as linear as in point A to point B

Certifications: (ones that count) WCNA, CC{N,D,S}P, GCIH, GSEC

++++++++++

Take note, all the certifications I listed are TECHNICAL, for those wondering why CISM, CISA, CGEIT, CISSP, etc isn't listed. And NO, the SSCP to me is not a technical cert. When I state "ones that count / relevant" I mean the ones you *truly* want to aim for as you WILL LEARN while getting them. Not to take anything away from say the C|EH, CHFI but it is what it is. I felt the certifications I listed would help you LEARN something as opposed to dumping a billion tools on your lap and telling you "hey this is a security tool, learn this tool's syntax and we will give you a shiny certificate!"

Your best bet regardless of any advice you see from me or anyone else is to determine something that you can enjoy while making money. I would hate to focus on Forensics only to have a job I hated doing e-Discovery 24x7x365. I know people that dread getting into the field. They work to dissect/analyze info, go to court, are stressed out as all hell. The money they make doesn't cover sanity, happiness.

Go over to Dice.com and check the markets for certs also. Search for the certification itself to see its demand and WHO is asking for that particular cert. That is a good baseline as is e.g:

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Certification=Certified_Ethical_Hacker_%28CEH%29/Salary
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Certification=SANS%2fGIAC_Security_Essentials_Certification_%28GSEC%29/Salary
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Certification=SANS%2fGIAC_Certified_Intrusion_Analyst_%28GCIA%29/Salary
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Certification=SANS%2fGIAC_Certified_Forensic_Analyst_%28GCFA%29/Salary
http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Forensic-Consultant-Ence-l-New-York,-NY.html
http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=GREM&l1=New+York%2C+NY

75  Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / General Certification / Re: need advice: which cert to go for on: June 12, 2012, 09:43:24 AM
It is not about stealing others hardwork. I dont have good financial background, so that i could spend on gathering basic knowledge, sorry if it hurts u.well, today sombody can act like shouting on me, becoz i am seeking for guidance. But tomorrow if I master these things, I am going to welcome everybody open heartedly when someone asks for any help. Here i just wanted to ask for guidance about what to do,not for any help from anyone. I am capable of helping myself, thanx alot.

There really is no need for you to go on the defensive. The fact is that it is stealing. Even if you are not on sound financial footing there are several other options outside of torrents that can get you started.

Jason also offered you solid advice. Maybe its not what you wanted to hear.
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