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Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: SANS SEC 660 - Advanced Penetration Testing, Exploits, and Ethical Hacking
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on: January 09, 2012, 03:53:23 PM
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Haha Dark_Knight I know the feeling, and even that, is just "touching the door", CTP is opening the door, and AWE is stepping through the door and into the unknown  I haven't done AWE, but I've heard from plenty of people it's insane, but really nice  I can only imagine. I have heard that the classes normally start out "full enough" and as time goes by the number usually gets smaller. At one point I heard one guy just got up and left after a couple hours 
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Ethical Hacking Discussions and Related Certifications / Network Pen Testing / Re: SANS SEC 660 - Advanced Penetration Testing, Exploits, and Ethical Hacking
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on: January 06, 2012, 05:26:16 PM
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I have taken this course, though I have not taken the OSCE yet, but I am going to within the next month or so, so I could give you a direct comparison based on experience in the near future. Otherwise, based on what I have been told about the OSCE and my experience with SEC660.
660 you will learn not just how to write advanced exploits, but you will learn some of the theory and technology of memory and processors to better understand why and how exploits work thus enabling you to better build your own no matter what anti exploit technology faces you.
660 also shows a lot of neat tricks for just hacking in general which go well beyond what you learn in any other hacking style courses.
It is in my opinion that 660 coupled with 710 are a great combo since 710 picks up where 660 leaves off in regards to exploit development and goes well beyond what OSCE covers(based on what I have heard about OSCE).
Now OSCE forces you to actually build exploits, but not necessarily understand how or why they work, and you are prompted to learn some of that on your own since it is self paced.
I think those who take 660 are a more well rounded advanced pen tester, and those who take just the OSCE are very good at writing exploits for many situations but not all.
Keeping in mind my opinion may change after I take the OSCE.
I hope this helps!
Much appreciated.
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