@ MaXe
Sorry for the late reply....got bogged down with work....
Zero years
That's very encouraging to hear but I know that I have to be very skilled to land a junior pen-testing position so I assure you I will be working hard

From all these posts I have come to recognize the importance of Web App Security skills. Actually, I really kind of wanted to learn how to hack websites but why I avoided it and kind of disliked it was because:
1) I already know some basic programming in C,C++ so learning further programming kind of excites me . but the stuff that you need to know for web applications (e.g. Javascript, PHP etc.)
I don't really have a clue about them. In the web app field all I know is basic HTML. This is what was kind of discouraging me from expanding my knowledge in this domain.
But thanks for opening my eyes on the matter. I will try to improve in this aspect in the future

(After all I don’t want to get owned by some script kiddie!! )
About getting a sys admin job, could you please mention the skills a sys admin has? I saw the Wikipedia page but ‘maintain and operate the system’ doesn’t seem to provide a good insight into what it actually is.
And I must say that your examples are highly instructive.
I forgot to add that I found the bread analogy educational as well

(Those links you provided were pretty cool including intern0t.org. Reading about your CTF experiences were cool but I will leave that to the ‘big boys’ for now.
Pentesting gets bigger, more companies that previously never wanted a pentest or vulnerability assessment, are suddenly willing to spend money on pentests
Yay

Thanks for informing me about the scam too. I will keep my eyes peeled. (Ever since I started reading about E-mail hacking I’ve been pretty careful in checking for phishing pages. )
(I think you’re supposed to check the URL to make sure it’s the Google Gmail page and not someone’s phishing page, right?)
@ZeroOne
I agree that the people who have contributed to this thread are very knowledgeable and have posted many useful posts for beginners like me. I’m sure the book would sell like hotcakes since it’s not just the title that’s catchy but the content is valuable too.
@MaXe
it's the mindset that makes the hacker

@ajohnson
Only because "How To Become The Worlds No. 1 Hacker" was already taken...
I read the reviews for that book and ouch......it could never compete with the content offered by you guys

Regarding web app testing, and media attention aside, it's only going to become increasingly more important as more applications are created and/or migrated to a web-based format. Even now, most penetration testing positions I see advertised desire that the candidate have elementary web app testing skills, at the very least.
Thanks for helping me to realize its importance and helping to overcome my initial fear. Now, I feel a lot more warm to web app stuff. I still don't know anything about improving my current position.(I only know HTML) but I will get to web app after I finish the basics or side by side with networking(this combination looks kind of good)
Imagine the scenario where a fully-patched web server only has port 80 accessible. What are your attack vectors from the network/system side? Unless you have a zero-day, or the administrators have grossly misconfigured something, there aren't a lot of options. However, if the web application that is present on the web server comes into play, that opens the door for a wealth of attack vectors.
Thank you very much for these examples too

I love it when you guys give real life scenarios.

It makes it so much easier to grasp the concept and fun too. Like I said, I'm seeing web app with new eyes now. Do you know how to improve in this field and what I should know? (Don't worry I won't do learn it until I complete the basics, I'm just gathering info.)
Why directly assault a fortified barrier when you can potentially circumvent it altogether with minimal effort?
Sounds cool!
Considering how much this trend will likely continue over the next 5+ years, I think you'd really be limiting yourself if you didn't expand beyond networking and systems.
Once again thanks for making me aware of these issues
