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Title: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 19, 2011, 12:23:07 PM hello there
i wanna start a poll about anti viruses and i wanna know your opinion. ok so here is my question: whats the best anti virus for clients? please tell me your opinion and let me increase my security knowledges Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: millwalll on November 20, 2011, 05:20:59 AM I think any antivirus will do the main problem with AV is end user don't keep it up to date.
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: cd1zz on November 20, 2011, 11:34:53 AM I disagree. There are definitely better and worse AV's. I prefer ESET or Kaspersky. Case in point - we had a client who was on Trend Micro's enterprise suite and when we migrated them to ESET we started seeing far more virus detection. It seems Trend wasn't flagging certain traffic or files as malicious but ESET was. Keep in mind that no AV catches everything, most are signature based so if they don't know about a malicious file, it wont be flagged.
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 20, 2011, 01:58:26 PM realy do you like eset
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 20, 2011, 02:03:04 PM but i think its not a good one
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: impelse on November 20, 2011, 03:20:53 PM Vipre is good
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: lorddicranius on November 20, 2011, 04:30:45 PM A website that may be a good reference for you: http://www.av-comparatives.org/
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: n3r on November 20, 2011, 11:46:36 PM I have avira, it's not a bad one. At work they got Symantec, it's not as bad as i thought :D
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: millwalll on November 21, 2011, 04:53:55 AM I am using AVG and in my time I have seen the same viruses infected computers running all the big names in AV software. That is my reason to say they all pretty much the same. I also agree that some are a little better than other but not by much. I think they all have there good points and there bad points
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: Agoonie on November 21, 2011, 06:40:27 AM Play around with msfvenom/encoding and test them out with MSF payloads yourself too. Big names can be bypassed too. The only ones I can say stands out are AVG and Kaspersky. They usually caught the files I created in Metasploit.
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: SephStorm on November 21, 2011, 06:46:16 AM A website that may be a good reference for you: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: 3xban on November 21, 2011, 09:54:49 AM All antivirus sucks ;) Some just suck less.
I have warmed up to Symantec's Endpoint Protection. If properly configured (AV, Network Threat Protection and Proactive Threat Protection enabled) it can hold up pretty well. It also has the ability to implement application and device whitelisting/blacklisting. That is where much of the AV bypassing payloads can be prevented. I do like ESET as well, at least at home. It does a pretty good job catching some things. Also for home MS Security Essentials was surprisingly good at detecting an infected website download that ESET and AVG missed. For Enterprise clients I will stick with SEP, for its central management features. I have not used ESET or Kaspersky in that role, yet. AV software is only as good as its configuration. Just like most tools, nothing out-of-the-box will block everything. Adjustments need to be made to cater to your environment. Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 21, 2011, 11:44:25 AM yes 3xban all Avs is sucks but norton, eset, macoffe is very sucks! Whats your opinion about MSE
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: 3xban on November 21, 2011, 12:25:38 PM Microsoft Security Essentials? Well for a free home AV it isn't horrible and if I am running Windows I'd much rather rely on Microsoft to know its systems better than a 3rd party in order to protect them. I usually toss it on my testing machines just because it is free. They do have an enterprise level AV - Forefront (or whatever it is being called now) which I have yet to use.
Norton Home security suite is just bloatwear in my opninion. Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 21, 2011, 01:43:58 PM yes you right mse is good for home but you can use it for small/medium office for clients if you provide a wsus server
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: SephStorm on November 21, 2011, 05:29:10 PM MSE I am a fan of, but I havent done testing on it. the current family of Norton products is... decent good protection, but it has its issues. I defiantly dont consider it the steaming pile it used to be.
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: Leon2015 on November 21, 2011, 09:49:24 PM every AV have a good and bad side
someone like this one but other one is not. Just check and try to view intformation about program and choose the one u like. I vote for: Free Avast, AVG, Aviva. License for Kas/Kis Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 23, 2011, 01:02:15 AM Yes you right but some anti viruses has bad sides more than good. and avg, avira is good but i didnt test free avast whats your opinion about this
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: 3xban on November 23, 2011, 08:01:44 AM So what are the bad sides? I think the only bad sides I can think of are either bloated operations and lower success rates at detections. As I mentioned all AV products have sucked. Most of the newer products coming out are doing a much better job at keeping their footprint small. Currently my SEP instance is running under 30 MB (all processes). ESET at home runs about 20MB (just the AV). What happens is that people freak out and install 2-3 different anti-malware products that run at the same time (Anti-Virus, Anti-spyware, Firewall etc...). Most retail anti-virus products come with the whole package and include the ability to detect other malware besides viruses. The devs are really making sure that their product doesn't muck up the system.
I think alot of products get a bad rep due to users not properly cleaning out temp files and allow for heavy fragmentation to occur which makes the AV products work much harder. Just my thoughts... Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: cd1zz on November 23, 2011, 08:20:15 AM Totally agree 3x. Detection is #1 in my book but you still have to maintain a balance between usability and functionality. Even ESET and Symantec are still susceptible to basic code cave techniques but its still a necessary evil.
Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: Eleven on November 23, 2011, 09:08:26 AM So what are the bad sides? I think the only bad sides I can think of are either bloated operations and lower success rates at detections. As I mentioned all AV products have sucked. Most of the newer products coming out are doing a much better job at keeping their footprint small. Currently my SEP instance is running under 30 MB (all processes). ESET at home runs about 20MB (just the AV). What happens is that people freak out and install 2-3 different anti-malware products that run at the same time (Anti-Virus, Anti-spyware, Firewall etc...). Most retail anti-virus products come with the whole package and include the ability to detect other malware besides viruses. The devs are really making sure that their product doesn't muck up the system. I think alot of products get a bad rep due to users not properly cleaning out temp files and allow for heavy fragmentation to occur which makes the AV products work much harder. Just my thoughts... 0. A false positive that removes a critical file, which has happened before... even fairly recently 1. AV software could have its own vulnerabilities... some have been discovered before 2. People who don't know any better and have WAY too much confidence in AV software's detection rate 3. People who think AV software is all they need to protect themselves from malware 4. AV software can remove important evidence (e.g. remove malware, fix configuration, changes atime on files) and leave an investigator with nothing but a "generic trojan found" to go on. But yeah, AV software may have problems, but it's usually the average person's only form of detection. Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: 3xban on November 23, 2011, 09:39:18 AM Good additions Eleven! It also doesn't help if the user disabled certain built in OS features such as UAC (Vista/7) or they are running as local admin on their XP. AV can't protect you if you are allowing anything to get installed or run. Then again being blind to those warnings is just as dangerous as disabling them.
Smart Browsing, knowing when you are being phished, running updated AV, running your firewall (no people your home router is not a firewall unless of course it is an actual firewall and not a dinky native linksys), and just using some common sense will protect you. And always remember if something is too good to be true, it probably isn't. Title: Re: whats the best anti virus for clients Post by: midnight monster on November 23, 2011, 11:59:34 AM elevan rights about the bad sides but when we talking about security as i think we havent a magical application that protect us like an only AV . we need to pay more attention about our behavior with computer for example if you using a weak password no anti viruses can help you to protect yourself . and also hackers can make their files undetectable if people wants to enhance security they must learn more about them
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