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Title: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: don on July 09, 2009, 11:41:32 AM
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Just when several Linux distributions seemed to be gaining a foothold, the search giant's brand and reputation may soon curtail their success

By Agam Shah | IDG News Service

Much of the discussion around Google's new PC operating system has focused on a looming battle with Windows, but the biggest losers could be other Linux OSes that have been enjoying some moderate success on netbooks, industry analysts said.

Google announced late Tuesday that it is developing the Chrome OS, a lightweight operating system based on Linux and geared for people who do much of their computing on the Web. The software will eventually run on PCs, but before that it will appear first in netbooks in the second half of 2010, Google says.

Several Linux-based OSes for netbooks are available today, including Canonical's Ubuntu Netbook Remix, GoodOS's gOS 3.1 Gadgets, and Moblin 2.0 beta, which is backed by Intel.

The Linux distributions provide easy access to Web applications from the home screen and are designed to boot up quickly. Netbooks, which initially were too small and low-cost to run a full-fledged Windows OS, provided an opportunity for Linux to establish itself in personal computers, an area where it struggled for years to achieve a mainstream role.

But just when some Linux distributions seemed to be gaining a foothold, Google may soon curtail their success. The strength of its brand, and its reputation as a company that builds sleek and easy-to-use products, means it could steamroll over the other Linux candidates, said Joshua Martin, senior analyst at the Yankee Group.

Consumers will be drawn to a brand they recognize and that they associate with efficient online services, rather than to lesser-known names like Ubuntu and Moblin, Martin said. Google's reputation for creating popular online services may also encourage PC makers to adopt the OS in netbooks, he said.

Other Linux distributions still haven't been widely successful in netbooks, setting the bar low for Google's Chrome OS to succeed, said Al Gillen, program vice president at IDC.

"With consumers, who are less likely to be concerned about track record and commercial support, Google Chrome OS could do better than other distros," Gillen said.

There is also a high level of fragmentation in the netbook market, with multiple versions of Linux installed on different machines, a weakness that Google could exploit.

Ultimately, however, end-users will decide whether the Google OS will succeed. Linux-based netbooks have seen slow adoption, with many consumers preferring the familiarity of Windows. Over the past few quarters, around 90 percent of netbooks in mature markets, and as many as 70 percent in developing countries, have shipped with Windows, according to Gartner.

A battle will take place among Chrome and the other Linux distributions, but together they could also create a dent in Microsoft's Windows franchise. Chrome could help to give Linux more recognition on the desktop, creating an easier path for other distributions, according to some Linux providers.


For complete story:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/google-os-could-put-squeeze-other-flavors-linux-688

Don


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: former33t on July 09, 2009, 09:31:17 PM
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Chrome could help to give Linux more recognition on the desktop, creating an easier path for other distributions, according to some Linux providers.

I think this is the most likely outcome.  Those looking for a non-windows solution will initially be drawn to Chrome (because of the Google name) and then on to a mainstream Linux distro.  Still, there's something to be said for familiarity.  Unless we get another Vista, I think Microsoft has nothing to worry about in the desktop market.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: UNIX on July 10, 2009, 12:14:21 AM
Looking forward to test their OS, although I don't expect yet something, which I will use on a daily basis. Still looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: dalepearson on July 10, 2009, 10:12:47 AM
Apparently its going to be Malware resistant :)

http://www.darkreading.com/securityservices/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218401111&cid=nl_DR_DAILY_H (http://www.darkreading.com/securityservices/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218401111&cid=nl_DR_DAILY_H)

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"[Google Chrome OS] should be immune to most existing PC viruses, but will face Web-based risks and attacks much like any other browser model would," says Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group. "User authentication is probably [the] biggest problem -- even more than a PC -- as this will become a natural key to a lot of large databases and services."

I wish them all the best, and look forward to it, I hope they are not setting themselves up for epic fail though.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: former33t on July 10, 2009, 10:16:36 AM
Dale,

I also wish them the best, but they have a real challenge ahead of themselves and are really risking the whole brand on this venture.  I think 'epic fail' was a great choice of words.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: Ketchup on July 10, 2009, 03:16:22 PM
I wonder what the terms and conditions are going to be on this one.  I would not be surprised if they have some clause in there that allows them to monitor what you are doing.   Epic fail indeed, like that DVD rewinder I tried to market a while back ;)


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: former33t on July 10, 2009, 05:50:08 PM
Ketchup,

I hadn't even thought about that.  I bet you are right that there will be some built in monitoring of online activities.  Maybe you'll get some context sensitive "toolbar ads."  That will be great.

Maybe they hope to use the OS (and user's accounts) to get into facebook's massive store of data...


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: UNIX on July 11, 2009, 02:07:20 AM
I thought the same about included monitoring stuff, as it was also in Chrome. However, if I remember correctly, it was removed after some time because of the community.
As their OS will be opensource, I guess that some people will watch through the code and look for such things.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: timmedin on July 14, 2009, 06:43:52 PM
"[Google Chrome OS] should be immune to most existing PC viruses, but will face Web-based risks and attacks much like any other browser model would," says Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group.

I hate marketing spin like this. Of course it should be immune, it is a different OS.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: UNIX on July 15, 2009, 12:59:39 AM
If their OS is really becoming in some way famous I could imagine a few new attackforms based on it. Especially as web-(in)security is since a few years becoming more famous continously and many markets are shifting to it.


Title: Re: Google OS Could Put Squeeze on Other Flavors of Linux
Post by: jpaulin on July 20, 2009, 05:33:48 AM
What I'd love to have with the new OS is considerable reduction in the amount of administration work. I mean running a Windows network of computers and doing all the chores is sometimes frustrating work. It's too much about credentials, nitty gritty configurations, and usually a system becomes such a mess, really. It needs constant reordering; then you're in the upgrade path, guessing what is really going to happen when you go the next version of the operating system. I don't know for sure anything about the new operating system. If google is wise, they will see the point of view of corporate users (also, in addition to average joe) and put a LOT of effort into making the OS easy to handle.  

Let's see what else might be cool..
- spawning new hosts, with really a click of a button (replacing RIS/WDS/...)
- also destroying those hosts when necessary
- making software configuration totally transferrable; if you have a good settings at one host, you can clone apps easily over to other hosts. You don't need to worry about actually "installing" it in the traditional way. This is abstract idea, but shooting anyway.
- say good bye to CDs and finding your other installation media
- I think google could definitely do a great new shell; they are pretty text-based company after all

 ;)