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Title: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: Ants on June 15, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
Please note, this is not a technical question.

I am doing some research on Dictionary based password cracking that will hopefully be of use for optimisation.

So I was wondering how do most professional hackers use JTR.

Do you normally use it for just cracking one password at a time or do you use a short or long list of passwords? Also, how long would you leave it running before you gave up and tried another method?

Thanks

Ants


Title: Re: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: Ketchup on June 15, 2009, 10:30:57 PM
Well, I wouldn't call myself a professional hacker, but I use JTR mostly on Linux.   On Windows, I prefer Cain and Abel.   I use it for both, a single password and groups of passwords cracking.    I typically don't run it for more than a few days. 


Title: Re: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: Jhaddix on June 15, 2009, 10:59:17 PM
however many hashes i get from a box is how many i run john on, and will continue to run it on a non production machine until the engagement is close to reporting. Distributed jtr is my next goal to quicken the cracking process. jtr is vital to pentests, hope that helps


Title: Re: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: UNIX on June 16, 2009, 12:08:15 AM
I really like JTR too but I don't need it often. I use it for both single and multi. Depending if time is an important key I would let it run also for a longer period of time on a seperate machine.


Title: Re: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: jimbob on June 16, 2009, 02:21:37 AM
It depends on what you are trying to achieve. If you just want to prove a point JTR in single crack mode can reveal the weakest passwords in seconds and demonstrates the need for good password policy. I use longer runs when I want to leverage the passwords I find to get deeper.

Jimbob


Title: Re: How do you use John the Ripper - non-tech question
Post by: Ants on June 16, 2009, 08:35:40 AM
Hey thanks guys. That helps me a lot.