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Title: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: pseud0 on March 12, 2008, 11:47:49 AM very interesting stuff.
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/12/1427252&from=rss I'll quote my favorite exchange: Quote Legal Hacking... (Score:5, Funny) by JeanBaptiste (537955) Just post a list of the stuff you want hacked and the more patriotic hackers will enjoy doing it for free. Due to the nature of hacking and what many people do to acquire such skills, they may not want to 'join up' and all that. But if you post a list of IP's that are okay to bring down, and networks you want information stolen from, with the understanding that the US will not condemn any attacks, and I'm sure more than enough people would do it for free. Is there anything like this already in place? Cause I got nothing better to do this weekend. Or most any weekend. ANSWER: YGTBKM! LOL! I like your enthusiasm, but you know the Air Force neither encourages nor condones criminal activity. Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: slimjim100 on March 12, 2008, 01:11:08 PM lol too funny.
Brian Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: Andrew Waite on March 12, 2008, 02:37:52 PM The worrying part is that he's probable right, offer a risk free target and I'm guessing most people will take a shot. If nothing else would create a lot of 'cover' for the 'professionals' to hide in.
Despite Pseud0's quote being among the best, I'd still recommend reading the whole interview for anyone who originally missed it on /. Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 01, 2008, 09:54:45 PM I was able to attend a talk on Cyber Command today and meet General Lord. Very interesting stuff. He's saying that it will really be five or so years before the command gets sorted out to any large extent.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: oneeyedcarmen on July 02, 2008, 08:24:06 AM Which means one of two things, either:
1. As with most government prognostications, it'll actually take 10 - 15 years -or- 2. It's already in place and has been for a while longer than anyone even knew it was in existence. Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: LSOChris on July 02, 2008, 08:26:53 AM i stand by my statement that it would be money
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: sgt_mjc on July 02, 2008, 09:46:58 AM The government loves duplicate effort. Our tax dollars at work....
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 02, 2008, 07:22:17 PM Actually part of the talk addressed this. They'll be consolidating the folks that are already doing the same or similar jobs in other commands into the new one. Alot of the people moving over are currently doing network-related work or are in spacecom.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: LSOChris on July 03, 2008, 02:06:24 PM in the AF or DoD? big difference.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 03, 2008, 03:10:29 PM This is strictly in the AF.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: LSOChris on July 03, 2008, 03:30:46 PM and how is this not a waste of $$?
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 03, 2008, 05:23:14 PM Basically his explanation for the whole command is that they're presently unprepared to provide troops for any sort of serious cyber war (his phrase). Currently when the need arises for any kind of a hackerish person, they take a green airman and send him to school for several years, then have him shadow someone from the NSA to get real-world experience. Having a multi-year delay on being able to put someone into the fray is obviously undesirable. So with the new command, they'll have folks trained up and ready to roll.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: LSOChris on July 03, 2008, 06:08:11 PM interesting, so lets stand up a command to send people to a fight that doctrinally we aren't allowed to fight. sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 03, 2008, 07:54:39 PM When asked direct questions about the activity that said command would take part in, he definitely put the emphasis on defense and skirted around addressing offensive capabilities. It sounded to me like there would be an offensive component, but he wasn't going to talk about it. Any kind of offense in that direction would require some changing (or at least serious reinterpretation) of the rules.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 03, 2008, 08:05:05 PM Looks like the Army is following fast in Lord's footsteps
http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/usaewp.asp (http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/usaewp.asp) Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: LSOChris on July 03, 2008, 08:11:16 PM When asked direct questions about the activity that said command would take part in, he definitely put the emphasis on defense and skirted around addressing offensive capabilities. It sounded to me like there would be an offensive component, but he wasn't going to talk about it. Any kind of offense in that direction would require some changing (or at least serious reinterpretation) of the rules. then he is full of crap because there is already a "cyber" wing of the AF. oh well, maybe they'll be hiring soon. still going to be in Louisiana though? blah. Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 03, 2008, 08:21:12 PM The HQ, for now, is at Barksdale, there will be two groups at Lackland, and there are two more still up for grabs. He said that they will eventually have folks in every state as they would have a strong national guard presence.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: sgt_mjc on July 04, 2008, 10:40:56 PM You know what they say, "The best deffense is a good offense." If the Chinese can attack our networks, I don't see why we can't hit them back...
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 05, 2008, 10:38:14 AM Any way you slice it, it's going to be a mess when countries start openly fighting this way.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: sgt_mjc on July 08, 2008, 10:13:26 AM Yeah. I heard a good one form a friend of mine that the AF network had recently been attacked. No, I don't know who was responsible, but we can all take a guess.
Title: Re: Air Force's Cyber Command General's slashdot interview Post by: jason on July 08, 2008, 10:37:25 PM Seems like that's a fairly regular thing anymore.
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